Any "Latest & Greatest" about Endeavor?
02-13-2020, 06:57 AM
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This is dramatic, and it's also mostly not true. I'm looking at the mock for NYC 900 FO right now. It looks like about half of lineholders have 13+ days off, some up to 16, and about 1/3 of lineholders got credit pushed and have minumum (10) days off, with the remaining percentage having 11 or 12 days off.
Contractually, reserves get 11 days off in a 28 day bid month, so that shouldn't be a surprise to anyone.
Are we adequately staffed? No. Is "just about everyone" at min days off? No...not even close.
Contractually, reserves get 11 days off in a 28 day bid month, so that shouldn't be a surprise to anyone.
Are we adequately staffed? No. Is "just about everyone" at min days off? No...not even close.
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02-13-2020, 07:11 AM
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I know a 28 year guy that is showing 13 days off, and not voluntarily. Most lineholders are 10-11 days off because management nearly stopped hiring for a while and now is hiring only minimally. We lost 46 last month and hired less than 40. It's not overdramatic, it's simple math. We are growing at 2-3 planes per month, but our seniority list is shrinking. It's simple math. New guys need to know the truth, not company propaganda. We are understaffed and will continue to be for the foreseeable future. Unless Daddy D lets go of their big ego and starts thinking about the F word AND we significantly increase our training capacity, understaffing, credit pushes, and min days off are what the future holds.
We need 80-90 pilots per month to hire for attrition and growth. The last class had 7 people. Like I said, if you want QOL and work-life balance, do not come here.
We need 80-90 pilots per month to hire for attrition and growth. The last class had 7 people. Like I said, if you want QOL and work-life balance, do not come here.
Just looking at NYC 900 FO mock.
200 lines
Line 147 is 13 days off all commutable
Line 134 is 14 days off somewhat commutable
Line 129 is 15 days off somewhat commutable
I didn't look at the other bases yet.
There is some truth to your statement that there are fewer days off this month. Buuut
It's a 28 day month so everyone gets one fewer say.
It's March, one of our busiest months of the year. Just look at aircraft utilization in the bid pack.
And not for nothing but a lot of (Junior) FO's I talk to are thrilled to be flying now, and their biggest complaint was sitting around not doing anything.
02-13-2020, 07:14 AM
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It's simple math. New guys need to know the truth, not company propaganda. We are understaffed and will continue to be for the foreseeable future. Unless Daddy D lets go of their big ego and starts thinking about the F word AND we significantly increase our training capacity, understaffing, credit pushes, and min days off are what the future holds.
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I think your overall point is valid, valid enough that it doesn’t need exaggerated claims to support it.
02-13-2020, 10:26 AM
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New hires beware: I hope you like min days off and not seeing your families. The mock award is showing just about everyone at min days off for March. That's 10 days for lineholders and 11 for reserves. This is due to our management not having us adequately staffed for the growth. Your QOL will not be good for the foreseeable future and you will have very little time off. Forget having a work life balance.
This is the best time to be a new hire here. You will fly your butt off, upgrade sooner and move on sooner.
Will March suck a big bag of deeks for senior folks who want max days off? Yes. Actually it looks like the whole summer will suck for those guys.
But for new hires? This is as good as it gets,
That is unless career progression is important to you. If so, go to a wholly owned with a flow. While there, put your apps in at the other majors.
DGI is improved, but still not even close to a flow.
02-13-2020, 10:59 AM
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I completely disagree with this, in its entirety.
This is the best time to be a new hire here. You will fly your butt off, upgrade sooner and move on sooner.
Will March suck a big bag of deeks for senior folks who want max days off? Yes. Actually it looks like the whole summer will suck for those guys.
But for new hires? This is as good as it gets,
That is unless career progression is important to you. If so, go to a wholly owned with a flow. While there, put your apps in at the other majors.
DGI is improved, but still not even close to a flow.
This is the best time to be a new hire here. You will fly your butt off, upgrade sooner and move on sooner.
Will March suck a big bag of deeks for senior folks who want max days off? Yes. Actually it looks like the whole summer will suck for those guys.
But for new hires? This is as good as it gets,
That is unless career progression is important to you. If so, go to a wholly owned with a flow. While there, put your apps in at the other majors.
DGI is improved, but still not even close to a flow.
It's not just us old guys it's going to suck for and plenty of young guys want time off at home. I'm just telling the fact that for the foreseeable future, we are going to be worked as hard as the company legally can. It's simple math that we don't have enough people. New guys need to keep that in mind.
02-13-2020, 01:56 PM
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02-13-2020, 02:29 PM
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