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Old 08-12-2019, 05:23 AM
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Originally Posted by flydiamond
I can definitely see the 7 remaining go jet planes being replaced the way you describe. So much for endeavor being the largest delta connection regional like management claims.
They never claimed that. They claimed to be the largest operator of the CRJ 900 in the world. Which is correct
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Old 08-12-2019, 06:14 AM
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Largest fleet or largest operator?
Largest operator of CRJ900s in the world. That's the only claim I've ever seen Endeavor make. The increased flying for DC will make them the largest volume operator of flights, but not necessarily the largest by shells.
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Old 08-12-2019, 06:42 AM
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Largest operator of CRJ900s in the world. That's the only claim I've ever seen Endeavor make. The increased flying for DC will make them the largest volume operator of flights, but not necessarily the largest by shells.
No, at one point they were saying Endeavor would be the largest DC carrier. 42%-46% with Slowwest and Republic splitting the remaining 50 whatever %. Now with this announcement they are changing the verbiage. I don’t remember them ever using the word “volume.” For comparison.
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Originally Posted by gojo
No, at one point they were saying Endeavor would be the largest DC carrier. 42%-46% with Slowwest and Republic splitting the remaining 50 whatever %. Now with this announcement they are changing the verbiage. I don’t remember them ever using the word “volume.” For comparison.
Yes this is exactly correct. Maybe they did mean by measure of block hour though as 900s fly longer routes than 200s. Either way, there has certainly been a feeling of smoke being blown up our as*ses.
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Old 08-12-2019, 06:58 AM
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Originally Posted by flydiamond
Yes this is exactly correct. Maybe they did mean by measure of block hour though as 900s fly longer routes than 200s. Either way, there has certainly been a feeling of smoke being blown up our as*ses.
All correct. The Skywest buildup surprises me. Although, I guess it shouldn’t. But I believe Delta owns a percentage in Republic and all of Endeavor. So I would expect that they’d invest there. In regards to the at risk flying, it looks like a lot of that is going back to Delta. At least that’s what I see in MSP
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Old 08-12-2019, 07:31 AM
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Originally Posted by gojo
No, at one point they were saying Endeavor would be the largest DC carrier. 42%-46% with Slowwest and Republic splitting the remaining 50 whatever %. Now with this announcement they are changing the verbiage. I don’t remember them ever using the word “volume.” For comparison.
There seems to be a small percentage of EDV guys who still believe the sky is falling and the foundation is crumbling. My goodness, just embrace the good news and be thankful for the growth. Life is WAY too short to micro analyze the minutia of a message from the CEO, while trying to speculate on what our percentage of flying will be in 36 months. Let the network folks handle that, we need to just focus on getting up and down and out and back home to our families.
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There seems to be a small percentage of EDV guys who still believe the sky is falling and the foundation is crumbling. My goodness, just embrace the good news and be thankful for the growth. Life is WAY too short to micro analyze the minutia of a message from the CEO, while trying to speculate on what our percentage of flying will be in 36 months. Let the network folks handle that, we need to just focus on getting up and down and out and back home to our families.
Yes, much better than reducing. And gotta stop shaking my head at the things Delta does. People are going to think I have Parkinson’s.
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Old 08-12-2019, 08:03 AM
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I believe the biggest thing people are missing is Skywest has way more to lose at this point than EDV. When the 200s start retiring Skywest operates a total of 83 200s of which 28 are pro rate flying and can be cancelled by Delta with very little notice. EDV only has 42 and is the largest dual class operator for Delta now and with all 200s retired Skywest would be put at 117 aircraft and EDV at 134 aircraft.

No one ever mentioned that the 2 other remaining carriers would be split 50% each, the only percentage figure I can recall is that EDV would be doing 40% of the DC flying which after getting the GoJet birds we will easily be at 40%, keep in mind I also count the % as amount of flights not amount of aircraft.

As for the GoJet 900 replacement, who knows what is actually happening. It could easily get replaced with Skywest/Republic getting more 175s but Delta could also purchase those aircraft and place them at EDV as those 900s are not very old and would likely get a very good deal on the purchase. Again though no one knows and we will just have to wait and see what happens.
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I believe the biggest thing people are missing is Skywest has way more to lose at this point than EDV. When the 200s start retiring Skywest operates a total of 83 200s of which 28 are pro rate flying and can be cancelled by Delta with very little notice. EDV only has 42 and is the largest dual class operator for Delta now and with all 200s retired Skywest would be put at 117 aircraft and EDV at 134 aircraft.

No one ever mentioned that the 2 other remaining carriers would be split 50% each, the only percentage figure I can recall is that EDV would be doing 40% of the DC flying which after getting the GoJet birds we will easily be at 40%, keep in mind I also count the % as amount of flights not amount of aircraft.

As for the GoJet 900 replacement, who knows what is actually happening. It could easily get replaced with Skywest/Republic getting more 175s but Delta could also purchase those aircraft and place them at EDV as those 900s are not very old and would likely get a very good deal on the purchase. Again though no one knows and we will just have to wait and see what happens.
Anything else thinking the MRJ/CRJ merger will result in scope-friendly SpaceJets that will give EJets a run for their money? Maybe we could be the launch partner for that bird?
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Old 08-12-2019, 08:34 AM
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Anything else thinking the MRJ/CRJ merger will result in scope-friendly SpaceJets that will give EJets a run for their money? Maybe we could be the launch partner for that bird?
I personally see the Spacejets as being our replacement aircraft in the future. Mitsubishi secured a Memorandum of Understanding for a undisclosed US airline for 15 aircraft at the Paris Air Show for the M100 which is the scope compliant aircraft they just annouced. The 700s we are getting now will have to be replaced within the next 5 years and the M100 line opens sometime in 2023 so the timeline seems to line up nicely.

Now let's just hope we are still not around when this happens.
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