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Old 01-07-2016, 07:16 PM
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Why in the world would it take 12 months to "approve" it? So many other regionals are already using iPads and SurfacePros already, I don't see why it would be any harder than buying a bunch of EFBs and putting them to good use.

Somebody in OKC get paid by the hour doing approvals!


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Old 01-07-2016, 07:27 PM
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Since Jepps is shutting down the offset presses, keeping paper subscriptions will become too costly to be effective. Surprised Endeavor hasn't realized this yet.

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This has probably been asked and answered somewhere deep in the forums, but how much do EFBs save the company in the long run?


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Old 01-08-2016, 03:18 AM
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Originally Posted by BobJenkins
Why in the world would it take 12 months to "approve" it? So many other regionals are already using iPads and SurfacePros already, I don't see why it would be any harder than buying a bunch of EFBs and putting them to good use.
Because that's not how the FAA works. It may be faster to get something that has already approved elsewhere approved for us, but they still have to give us the blessing. Manuals have to be written. Training programs developed, backup plans made, etc etc. It's not as simple as just handing everyone an iPad.
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Old 01-08-2016, 04:22 AM
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EFBs will be online by the end of the year. They are going to start the testing phase soon. Right now they are looking at platforms and mounts. This is what we were told by the fleet manager in recurrent this week. He is on the planning committee for EFBs. Also our VP of flight ops has gotten the budget through to the finance department.
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Old 01-08-2016, 05:33 AM
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Originally Posted by BobJenkins
Since Jepps is shutting down the offset presses, keeping paper subscriptions will become too costly to be effective. Surprised Endeavor hasn't realized this yet.

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Delta was putting the brakes on this program, not 9E. Delta has axed it from the budget for the last two years. Before that we were in bankruptcy court.

I agree though, we look like fools hauling around flight cases.
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Old 01-08-2016, 06:50 AM
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My understanding is that its the entire approval process that takes the 12 months.
Not the first phase. we'll see the testing on the line from select pilots within 6 months, and like the poster above said, full implementation by the end of 2016.
Looking forward to never worrying about Jepp updates again. This was long overdue, but at least happening.


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Old 01-08-2016, 06:54 AM
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Originally Posted by SmitteyB
Delta was putting the brakes on this program, not 9E. Delta has axed it from the budget for the last two years. Before that we were in bankruptcy court.

I agree though, we look like fools hauling around flight cases.
Even after they're issued, enjoy hauling BOTH around for a while. We've had the Surface 3 here at XE for 3 months now, still have to lug the 40-pound OJI-maker around and keep it all up to date. Apparently some people here still don't understand that you have to keep everything, both paper and electronic, up to date and fully charged when you start your day before the FAA will give us the blessing to have our big Jepp bonfire.
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Old 01-08-2016, 07:14 AM
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Anyone know what kind of tablet they're getting approved at 9E?


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Old 01-08-2016, 07:46 AM
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Anyone know what kind of tablet they're getting approved at 9E?


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Both the Ipad and Surface are going to be evaluated during the next phase. No decision has officially been made yet.
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Old 01-08-2016, 08:51 AM
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In an email dated 12/23/15, the following information was given. Phase I is already in motion and phase III is said to be complete by the second quarter of 2016

Phase I - Month 1

Initial written notification to and formal planning meeting with FAA.

Phase II - Months 2&3

Application

· Hardware and application specifics (off shelf)

· Manual revisions

· Procedures checklist

· Training Program (LMS) (off-shelf)

· EFB evaluation report

· Rapid Decompression Report (off shelf)

· Non-interference tests (Fleet Manager)

Phase III - Month 4 & 5

PI review including simulator or flight evaluation

Phase IV - (validation) - Months 6-11

Temporary AO61 issued for 6 month validation period. During this time devices noted in application may be utilized provided all current materials are carried (paper manuals, charts, etc.)

Phase V - (paperless flight deck) - Month 12

Authorization to use EFB ~ A061

Phase VI - TBD

Present business case for Company sponsored devices to Delta Finance.
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