Five93H

What is Bloch exactly? Hear it in every 9E thread, appreciate the clarification.

Tinpusher007

Bloch is the name of the arbitrator who decided the terms of our integrated seniority list from XJ, 9E and 9L. He basically took the relative seniority of everyone at their pre merger airline and folded it into one. The problem is that The 3 individual pilot groups were of varying sizes and longevity overall. So the end result is some pilots who were hired years after others winding up senior to them as a result of the "bloch award". Needless to say it is a very sore subject that will finally be over next year.

higney85

Richard Bloch was the arbitrator that created the seniority list of the merger Pinnacle/Mesaba/Colgan groups in 2011, now known as "Endeavor Air".

The seniority list is not going to change, but the conditions and restrictions of the award from June 16, 2011 is in force until June 16, 2016 (pretty sure it was the 16th..). 5 years from release. The Bloch award has some pieces that are still impacting awards for captain vacancy bids.

Mesaba (XJ) must have 279 -900 CA positions, and Pinnacle (legacy-9E) must have 95.

For -200 CA positions the numbers are 541 9E and 100 XJ, but due to the parking of -200's far below 641 -200 CA's, the captain vacancies are awarded at a ratio of 5.4:1 between premerger 9E and XJ.

What this means is that CA seats for the -900 go a bit junior to hit the XJ number of 279, then seniority rules overall. For the -200's coming back it will be ALL premerger pinnacle and Mesaba at a ratio of 5.4:1, which also tends to go a bit more junior by seniority number.

Hope that explains it in a cliffnotes version.

TalkTurkey

Saw some colgan awarded -200 captain slots too. Do they still get to hold -200 CA under Bloch

Yumyum

Bloch award is basically one pilot group, or maybe two with the inability to agree on DOH. The end result is a botched seniority list, or maybe a lottery ticket for some.

Mesabah

The Bloch award was a standard industry equipment merger. The problem was the union failed to say that it was 99% going to wind up this way no matter what. Thus, the fighting. ALPA would have never let a DRC, and not an arbitrator, make the call. The lawsuits would have been epic.

Milk Man

I think you may have misread the award, I dont see any colgan guys awarded 200 CA, maybe it was just a base change.

Yumyum

This is nothing like Delta / NWA merger. Not even close. The DOH could have, and should have been finalized. That was the option...figure it out, or have Bloch rule on it....and he did.

C120Driver

Quick question on bidding stuff, what is the difference between primary and secondary positions being open?

pa28dakota

Primary vacancies are openings that were originally on the vacancy announcement. Secondaries are vacancies created when someone moves out of their current position into a primary vacancy. Primary vacancies will be filled by the company. The secondaries do not necessarily have to be filled if the company chooses not to.