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08-24-2018, 03:59 PM

#20701

jaxthepilot

Treading water

Joined APC: Mar 2016

Position: Last Row Deadheader

Posts: 61

Has anyone noticed recently that there's a new "Block Time Details" tab on the Flight Ops section of the company website? It shows your recent block times. Pretty nifty I'd say.

08-24-2018, 04:16 PM

#20702

Ijustworkhere01

New Hire

Joined APC: Aug 2018

Posts: 1

No surprise

Propel up and running, application windows open and still nothing out about dgi. Wonder how long before we get an update on those career progression “negotiations” or anything on the program in place that hasn’t taken anyone.

08-25-2018, 08:59 AM

#20703

TransWorld

Gets Everyday Off

Joined APC: Aug 2016

Position: Fully Retired

Posts: 7,000

Quote:

Originally Posted by flydiamond

There aren’t many old lifers. First three pages of the seniority list have about 35 retiring in the next 5 years (out of 246), after that it starts getting in to much younger 2004 and beyond hires. 2/3 of our pilot group was hired in 2015 and beyond.

Thanks. If it is not the approaching mandatory retirement, I am wondering what is mostly keeping pilots as lifers. Yes, I know the long standard list. Yes, I know there are a variety of reasons. What one or two predominate? Any gut feel?

As retirements in the majors skyrockets and is sustained, I wonder will that pry a significant amount of the lifers out of their warm secure seats?

08-25-2018, 09:50 AM

#20704

flydiamond

Gets Weekends Off

Joined APC: May 2016

Posts: 1,033

Quote:

Originally Posted by TransWorld

It’s half the fact that major airlines unfortunately blackball many guys for being too “overqualified” and “untrainable,” but for better reasons, many of these guys are comfortable where they are. Some make very good money in management, sim instruction or as check airmen. Others enjoy a very good schedule and are based at home, already making $120k+ a year. If you only have 15-20 years left it doesn’t always make sense to leave, and this company is run well enough where guys are happy.

08-25-2018, 10:17 AM

#20705

GuardPolice

Gets Weekends Off

Joined APC: Jul 2018

Posts: 895

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Originally Posted by flydiamond

It’s half the fact that major airlines unfortunately blackball many guys for being too “overqualified” and “untrainable,”

More than 10k hours takes points off your application score at Delta. It doesn’t “blackball” you.

08-25-2018, 10:54 AM

#20706

Flogger

Part of the problem

Joined APC: Jul 2013

Position: CRJ200 CA

Posts: 577

Quote:

Originally Posted by GuardPolice

More than 10k hours takes points off your application score at Delta. It doesn’t “blackball” you.

Points off an app in a stack of perfect apps is pretty much a blackball.

It's Delta's ball. They get to make the rules of the game, but let's not try to lipstick the pig here. Experienced pilots are getting the shaft.

08-25-2018, 11:03 AM

#20707

GuardPolice

Gets Weekends Off

Joined APC: Jul 2018

Posts: 895

Quote:

Originally Posted by Flogger

This goes to the broader point that they don’t only look at flight time. It’s all but a certainty that these high time pilots lack other important things on their resume. Or they half-ass the application and it’s riddled with errors and omissions.

In the end, the high time isn’t the only thing that’s a deal killer just like so many other things on an application.

08-25-2018, 12:41 PM

#20708

Swagship

Line Holder

Joined APC: Mar 2018

Posts: 94

There's also a very large number of pilots here who simply can't be bothered to fill out and app and update times monthly.

08-25-2018, 04:27 PM

#20709

Avroman

Gets Weekends Off

Joined APC: Feb 2008

Position: FIRE ALPA

Posts: 3,100

We have a lot of lifer captains that couldn't stomach being back in the FO seat at any price. We also have a lot of guys that just won't give up 4 summer weeks of vacation and weekends off.