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Old 05-10-2018, 07:40 AM
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Originally Posted by Avrogod
Last time in RGS this question was asked and they said they put all their emphasis on putting the money into the rates. The pilot can decide what they use that money on, whether it be hotels or something else.
Is there any regional out there where the commuter hotels are a contractual benefit versus a recruitment tool?

I’d personally prefer they spend the negotiating capital on maximizing block per duty period and making the trips more commutable. That benefits everyone whether they live in base or not.
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Old 05-10-2018, 08:15 AM
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Is there any regional out there where the commuter hotels are a contractual benefit versus a recruitment tool?

I’d personally prefer they spend the negotiating capital on maximizing block per duty period and making the trips more commutable. That benefits everyone whether they live in base or not.

Given the impact of firebreaks I anticipate they'll use capital on rigs over hotels given the reasons you just stated.
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Old 05-10-2018, 09:49 AM
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Per diem people! With the tax law changes we are gonna eat that loss of per diem difference. Per diem needs to be at 2.15 per hour to offset what we lost in the tax law. The company more than makes up for it with the reduction of corporate tax rates

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Old 05-10-2018, 10:27 AM
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Per diem people! With the tax law changes we are gonna eat that loss of per diem difference. Per diem needs to be at 2.15 per hour to offset what we lost in the tax law. The company more than makes up for it with the reduction of corporate tax rates

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Old 05-10-2018, 10:55 AM
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Per diem people! With the tax law changes we are gonna eat that loss of per diem difference. Per diem needs to be at 2.15 per hour to offset what we lost in the tax law. The company more than makes up for it with the reduction of corporate tax rates

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Old 05-10-2018, 01:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Casualinterest
Per diem people! With the tax law changes we are gonna eat that loss of per diem difference. Per diem needs to be at 2.15 per hour to offset what we lost in the tax law. The company more than makes up for it with the reduction of corporate tax rates

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The higher individual deduction more than covers that.
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Old 05-10-2018, 02:07 PM
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A lot of people, especially ExpressJet people, were really hoping for the super base of Atlanta. That now seems to have been dropped. A few 5am shows to sit at LGA on airport reserve will cure a lot of people of coming to EDV. Again, there is no real career progression. Fast upgrades but that is on the 200 and you will be on reserve for two years, at least, and in New York. It's hell AND expensive. As far as the EMB170/175s, those promises have been made for a few years it seems. Then right at the last minute, oh no, they're not coming. The April fools "flow" was only to close to reality. The continued rumor of all these 700s may or may not be true. They keep dangling these carrots to attract and retain people because I believe if things do not improve there really is no reason to stay. Talk to the real senior people, they have been hearing all these things for years and years.

The culture has become a bit stale too. There are lots of grievances and lots of fatigue reports, mostly due firebreaks, being rejected. It is not part of the "Core" principles, the current state of affairs. I thought the new contract was supposed to bring peace and harmony but it seems to have brought micro management, god do they micro manage everything to death, and uneasiness.

The regionals are what they are BUT go with a flow. If you are going to be beat over the head and abused and have to spend time, a lot of time, in New York, you might as well have something for your investment. This is just my experience and opinion.
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Old 05-10-2018, 02:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Flogger
The higher individual deduction more than covers that.
No, it really doesn’t. Don’t want to start a political debate but when you consider the fact that the personal exemption was removed ($4000); the $6,000 larger Standard deduction in 2018 is only $2000 larger. Since the per diem write off, especially when traveling to major cities, is quite lucrative per day (upwards of $20 write off), it doesn’t take too many days away from base to get above $2000 from the meals and incidentals write off alone. This is especially true to anyone who has TDY’d, which has become involuntary for some of our pilots in 2018. Add to that the other deductions that are gone (Eg dry cleaning, headsets and uniforms, logbook subscriptions) and the new tax system is a major loss for our profession.
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Old 05-10-2018, 02:17 PM
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A lot of people, especially ExpressJet people, were really hoping for the super base of Atlanta. That now seems to have been dropped. A few 5am shows to sit at LGA on airport reserve will cure a lot of people of coming to EDV. Again, there is no real career progression. Fast upgrades but that is on the 200 and you will be on reserve for two years, at least, and in New York. It's hell AND expensive. As far as the EMB170/175s, those promises have been made for a few years it seems. Then right at the last minute, oh no, they're not coming. The April fools "flow" was only to close to reality. The continued rumor of all these 700s may or may not be true. They keep dangling these carrots to attract and retain people because I believe if things do not improve there really is no reason to stay. Talk to the real senior people, they have been hearing all these things for years and years.

The culture has become a bit stale too. There are lots of grievances and lots of fatigue reports, mostly due firebreaks, being rejected. It is not part of the "Core" principles, the current state of affairs. I thought the new contract was supposed to bring peace and harmony but it seems to have brought micro management, god do they micro manage everything to death, and uneasiness.

The regionals are what they are BUT go with a flow. If you are going to be beat over the head and abused and have to spend time, a lot of time, in New York, you might as well have something for your investment. This is just my experience and opinion.
May I ask why you don’t just move over to Envoy then? Your attitude is toxic and does not represent the positive attitudes I encounter out on the line.
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Old 05-10-2018, 02:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Boats and Hos
A lot of people, especially ExpressJet people, were really hoping for the super base of Atlanta. That now seems to have been dropped. A few 5am shows to sit at LGA on airport reserve will cure a lot of people of coming to EDV. Again, there is no real career progression. Fast upgrades but that is on the 200 and you will be on reserve for two years, at least, and in New York. It's hell AND expensive. As far as the EMB170/175s, those promises have been made for a few years it seems. Then right at the last minute, oh no, they're not coming. The April fools "flow" was only to close to reality. The continued rumor of all these 700s may or may not be true. They keep dangling these carrots to attract and retain people because I believe if things do not improve there really is no reason to stay. Talk to the real senior people, they have been hearing all these things for years and years.

The culture has become a bit stale too. There are lots of grievances and lots of fatigue reports, mostly due firebreaks, being rejected. It is not part of the "Core" principles, the current state of affairs. I thought the new contract was supposed to bring peace and harmony but it seems to have brought micro management, god do they micro manage everything to death, and uneasiness.

The regionals are what they are BUT go with a flow. If you are going to be beat over the head and abused and have to spend time, a lot of time, in New York, you might as well have something for your investment. This is just my experience and opinion.
Boats and Hos yet again wins the award for most useless post of the day. Anyone coming in as a street captain knows they are going to be on reserve for a long time.

Culture has become a bit stale? The only degradation in the culture at endeavor has been from negative attitudes brought by pilots who came here from other airlines like yourself.
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