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Old 04-02-2018, 04:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Fourpaw
Anyone noticed the companies new shenanigans with loa 67 pertaining to reassigned flying?

It breaks down like this. If you get reassigned more flying on day one which credits higher than your original day BUT have a min day some where on day two thee four etc, you will not be paid the overage on day one. You will notice a nice red mark on your rainmaker where your extra pay is being removed. They are using the min days to not have to pay on the overage days.

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Cant believe Union would allow this, oh wait yes I can.
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Old 04-02-2018, 04:55 PM
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Cant believe Union would allow this, oh wait yes I can.
I can't believe you're this disconnected from the process.
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Old 04-02-2018, 05:22 PM
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I can't believe you're this disconnected from the process.
Wait... Yes I can

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Old 04-03-2018, 04:43 AM
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Haha. Nice.

The "Union" is us, if you think the current set of VOLUNTEERS are doing a bad job, and you think you can do better then it's time for you to start volunteering.

I used to do a fair amount of union work and I'll tell you, it's mostly a thankless job that robs you of days off and time away from work, but when I thought I could do better, I started volunteering.

If you're not willing to help out to solve what you see as a problem, then I guess you don't think it's really such a problem.

Edit: For clarity my response is really to Milkman. I guess that quoting could be confusing.
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Old 04-03-2018, 06:05 AM
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Haha. Nice.

The "Union" is us, if you think the current set of VOLUNTEERS are doing a bad job, and you think you can do better then it's time for you to start volunteering.

I used to do a fair amount of union work and I'll tell you, it's mostly a thankless job that robs you of days off and time away from work, but when I thought I could do better, I started volunteering.

If you're not willing to help out to solve what you see as a problem, then I guess you don't think it's really such a problem.

Edit: For clarity my response is really to Milkman. I guess that quoting could be confusing.
Right, all of my interactions with the reps has been positive. They probably don't get enough credit for how much unpaid work they have to do. That being said, we keep them honest when we don't like the way stuff goes. That's why there's a process to this stuff. I've filled out a few grievances and lost most of them but the reps did their best and were as friendly and helpful as they could be throughout.

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Old 04-03-2018, 10:19 AM
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Originally Posted by Fourpaw
Anyone noticed the companies new shenanigans with loa 67 pertaining to reassigned flying?

It breaks down like this. If you get reassigned more flying on day one which credits higher than your original day BUT have a min day some where on day two thee four etc, you will not be paid the overage on day one. You will notice a nice red mark on your rainmaker where your extra pay is being removed. They are using the min days to not have to pay on the overage days.

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Here's the deal with this BS. I don't know if it's contractually right, and I haven't read the LOA. But the deal is that you will be paid what the original pairing was worth. Let's say you trade a 3-day trip and acquire a 4-day that's worth less than the three day because you want more credit for the extra day of work for premium. You wont get sh17. They will deduct the entire amount of the previous trip, and insert the credit of the new trip. End of story. No overage. no premium even if advertised.
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Old 04-03-2018, 10:21 AM
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Originally Posted by Blueskies21
Haha. Nice.

The "Union" is us, if you think the current set of VOLUNTEERS are doing a bad job, and you think you can do better then it's time for you to start volunteering.

I used to do a fair amount of union work and I'll tell you, it's mostly a thankless job that robs you of days off and time away from work, but when I thought I could do better, I started volunteering.

If you're not willing to help out to solve what you see as a problem, then I guess you don't think it's really such a problem.

Edit: For clarity my response is really to Milkman. I guess that quoting could be confusing.
Yea but why is it double-spaced?
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Old 04-03-2018, 10:40 AM
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Originally Posted by theUpsideDown
Seems like on here it's:
1. Write on Facebook
2. Write on APC
3. GRIPE in crew room to anyone that'll listen
4. Be told to fill out issue form.
5. Decide it's not worth it.
Won’t get into naming names but what’s up with the one guy who posted yesterday in the FB group telling us what we should be putting in our company surveys? “Better contractual career progression” yeah, ok pal. Why don’t you fill out YOUR survey and I’ll fill out MINE. That buffoon posts more $hi@ on there and really takes away from the purpose of the group. Love the ending..”Management sees these”...ZOMG no way!?!?

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Old 04-03-2018, 01:43 PM
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Yea but why is it double-spaced?
What's double spaced? You mean why did I break it apart rather than wall of text?? If that's the question, reading comprehension is the answer. Lots of people won't read a wall of text. I had to really try to keep all of it together on this post.
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Old 04-03-2018, 01:45 PM
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Originally Posted by TalkTurkey
Here's the deal with this BS. I don't know if it's contractually right, and I haven't read the LOA. But the deal is that you will be paid what the original pairing was worth. Let's say you trade a 3-day trip and acquire a 4-day that's worth less than the three day because you want more credit for the extra day of work for premium. You wont get sh17. They will deduct the entire amount of the previous trip, and insert the credit of the new trip. End of story. No overage. no premium even if advertised.
I must be missing something, you dropped a three day (let's say 18 hrs) and you picked up a 4 day for less total hours ( 16 hours maybe).... and you're confused about why you didn't get premium pay?? Is that the question?
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