Av8er1550

I don’t know. I’m on the fence about this. Honestly it’s not that complicated of a departure. If a LCP is onboard I’d use the autopilot or if I’m tired. Otherwise I handfly it. That’s just my 135 side of me coming out though. Autopilot does help mitigate the workload but I hope because of these problems that the company doesn’t start requiring the use of autopilot on this departure.

It’s really not a complicated procedure though. I don’t see how some people are WARTS/NATS professionals but they can’t fly the plane....lol


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Shadre Reevis

Yes this procedure is easy to fly by hand or with autopilot.. But he suggests throwing out standard procedures in order to reduce workload, while at the same time refusing to use the autopilot. That's what I don't understand.

Av8er1550

Gotcha. Yeah I’m with you on that.


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gojo

Auto pilot usage is not mandatory for this procedure. And I agree, it’s not hard to fly by hand. In fact, I feel that the auto pilot is too sluggish. However that said, what’s important is making the turn to a 040 heading at 2.5 DME to stay out of JFK’s airspace. That’s also why the airspeed is restricted to 210 or below until on that heading. The importance of a good WARTS briefing, in particular the part about anticipated threats for the flight depends on good self evaluation and self disclosure. If I’m tired, or flying with a new ish FO, or if he or she is tired, I’ll probably elect to use the auto pilot to lessen the work load. I’m not sure where the breakdown is occurring. Maybe some of it’s known magnetic annomaly. Ether way, we have procedures for departing on runway 13 in LaGuardia. Don’t make up your own procedures. I feel, do everything like a LCP or FAA is in the Jumpseat every flight, and slow down a little

Space Ranger

Doesn't shock me one bit considering some of the people I've seen on the line recently. Just look at the new hire page, and see for yourself how "professional" that idiot all the way to the left is. Making childish hand signals because it was a "thing" on instagram. Some people here need to put on their big boy/girl pants. Examples like this which is why we aren't treated like we should be or what we're "worth" by DAL. Can't fly RNAV off the runway in ATL, Whitestone climb, and we have new hires not even out of the school house acting like children. Hopefully someone from the training department sees that and washes him out in sims. Its pretty disgusting the lack of professionalism I've seen and continue to see. Oh but we deserve flow, contractual career progression, same commuter policy's as Delta, yadda yadda yadda. This regional seems like more of an adult day care each day. I am not making this a blanket statement to everyone but some of us need to grow the f$%# up.

SirLurksalot

You think that guy should get fired and have his career tarnished with a 121 training failure over that? Wow you have some real issues bud!

jules11

It's:

a right turn,
a DME point,
a higher than normal acceleration altitude (therefore easier since you can forget about it for that much longer)
a left turn
and a speed restriction

5 things...

WesternSkies

And you guys said GOJET couldn’t handle New York....

gojo

Do we want to air Skywest’s dirty laundry?

Space Ranger

My point remains.