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Old 03-14-2018, 10:41 AM
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Originally Posted by whoareyou311
According to FB the CEO was in ATL....I heard they said hiring stopped because not enough Fo's want to upgrade.anything else they say?
Someone said yesterday they have so many people upgrading they want the sims for exclusively for upgrades for a bits to get them through. Makes sense seeing the last several classes hqvw been mostly xjt guys who probably took ground school upgrades.
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Old 03-14-2018, 11:25 AM
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Originally Posted by whoareyou311
According to FB the CEO was in ATL....I heard they said hiring stopped because not enough Fo's want to upgrade.anything else they say?
Friend of mine said that recruiters had a conference call yesterday that basically said no more cjo's until the end of summer and smaller class sizes. I guess we have all the FO's we need for a while.

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Old 03-14-2018, 01:34 PM
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Ok FDP and flight time are two different things.

FDP definition Per FAR 117:

Flight duty period (FDP) means a pe- riod that begins when a flightcrew member is required to report for duty with the intention of conducting a flight, a series of flights, or positioning or ferrying flights, and ends when the aircraft is parked after the last flight and there is no intention for further aircraft movement by the same flightcrew member. A flight duty pe- riod includes the duties performed by the flightcrew member on behalf of the certificate holder that occur before a flight segment or between flight seg- ments without a required intervening rest period. Examples of tasks that are part of the flight duty period include deadhead transportation, training con- ducted in an aircraft or flight simu- lator, and airport/standby reserve, if the above tasks occur before a flight segment or between flight segments without an intervening required rest period.

Flight time is not define in FAR 117. Flight time is for the block hour limits, 8 or 9 hours in a day, 100 in 672hrs or 1000 in 365. This is complete separate from FDP limits

FDP starts at Duty in and ends at block in with no further expectations of flight.

Two very different things. The company can not attach FDP to aircraft movement.
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Old 03-14-2018, 02:00 PM
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Originally Posted by preflight
Curious exactly how that works?

If you fly 25 hours OE, then do not break guarantee, is it 50 hours CA pay?

Or if you finish OE on the 10th for 30 day month, do you get 66% CA for the 75 hour min pay?

Also, rainmaker still shows $37 (old FO rate) so how long for payroll to start showing the new rates rather than adjusting the old ones?

Not complaining, just curious
Yes they will adjust your pay to reflect your new rate. I asked the same question to payroll about the rate as well. Was told something along the lines of there’s a line adjustment in your check and your new rate will not show for one or two checks. You can verify this with them but I’m pretty sure that’s how it worked. I’d have to go back and look at my paystubs. Best bet is to ask them directly.
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Old 03-16-2018, 10:30 AM
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Here's my take on all that's happening with regard to 9E recruitment and staffing. Delta needs RJ Captains. That's the primary focus. Delta wants to load more aircraft onto us (conjecture as far as we are all concerned). Capacity purchase agreements are coming to an end at GJ, EV and CZ. Somebody's got to take those planes and somebody's got to fly them. But who? SkyWest is scoped out and no rumors of taking CZ flying exist. TSA is putting all their eggs in United's basket. GJ and CZ are definitely on their way out. This has M&A written all over it in my opinion. I would not be surprised one bit if we don't see some Delta regional consolidation here in the very near future.
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Old 03-16-2018, 12:23 PM
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Originally Posted by TalkTurkey
Here's my take on all that's happening with regard to 9E recruitment and staffing. Delta needs RJ Captains. That's the primary focus. Delta wants to load more aircraft onto us (conjecture as far as we are all concerned). Capacity purchase agreements are coming to an end at GJ, EV and CZ. Somebody's got to take those planes and somebody's got to fly them. But who? SkyWest is scoped out and no rumors of taking CZ flying exist. TSA is putting all their eggs in United's basket. GJ and CZ are definitely on their way out. This has M&A written all over it in my opinion. I would not be surprised one bit if we don't see some Delta regional consolidation here in the very near future.
I really think too much is being read into here. We're overstaffed and they want to reduce new hires to open more sim time up for upgrades because they currently don't need more new FOs than attrition. Full scale hiring to resume this fall for continued growth from 30% DCI lift to 45%.
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Old 03-16-2018, 01:27 PM
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Originally Posted by TalkTurkey
Here's my take on all that's happening with regard to 9E recruitment and staffing. Delta needs RJ Captains. That's the primary focus. Delta wants to load more aircraft onto us (conjecture as far as we are all concerned). Capacity purchase agreements are coming to an end at GJ, EV and CZ. Somebody's got to take those planes and somebody's got to fly them. But who? SkyWest is scoped out and no rumors of taking CZ flying exist. TSA is putting all their eggs in United's basket. GJ and CZ are definitely on their way out. This has M&A written all over it in my opinion. I would not be surprised one bit if we don't see some Delta regional consolidation here in the very near future.
I think you are right, I bet $5 Delta buys, and merges Compass in to us. This makes a whole lot of sense given the situation.
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Old 03-16-2018, 02:12 PM
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I think you are right, I bet $5 Delta buys, and merges Compass in to us. This makes a whole lot of sense given the situation.
I've heard they won't sell unless they buy all 3 airlines. I'd imagine having all 3 would be a big headache for everyone involved.
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Old 03-16-2018, 02:44 PM
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I've heard they won't sell unless they buy all 3 airlines. I'd imagine having all 3 would be a big headache for everyone involved.
Didn't they do that once already? 3 airlines into Endeavor.
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Old 03-16-2018, 02:48 PM
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Originally Posted by msprj2
Didn't they do that once already? 3 airlines into Endeavor.
3 airlines into pinnacle, then pinnacle into endeavor.

The final result? Drove away 3/5 of the pilots and instead of finding synergy and reducing cost Endeavor is now the most expensive and Skywest still beats our costumer service numbers.

With all that said, I'd be shocked if they learned their lesson.
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