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Old 03-04-2018, 11:23 AM
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Originally Posted by KSCessnaDriver
What's the cost of mis-connecting 10 passengers because you flew 250 knots like SkyPest versus burning some extra fuel to get there early.

Maybe the landing window non-sense makes sense at a gate constricted airport like LGA or JFK, but in ATL, I'm not so sure.
My post was about fuel burn, not overall cost.

That aside, presumably there wouldn't be any misconnects if you arrive between 15 and 5 minutes prior to the scheduled ON time.

I agree with what you say about this being more useful at the gate restricted airports, but those same airports are where you're likelier to get caught in protracted vectoring and assigned speeds, which would increase the risk when cutting it close.

I wonder if the window will always be 15 to 5 prior, or that's just a typical example.

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Old 03-04-2018, 11:59 AM
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Originally Posted by vessbot
My post was about fuel burn, not overall cost.

That aside, presumably there wouldn't be any misconnects if you arrive between 15 and 5 minutes prior to the scheduled ON time.

I agree with what you say about this being more useful at the gate restricted airports, but those same airports are where you're likelier to get caught in protracted vectoring and assigned speeds, which would increase the risk when cutting it close.

I wonder if the window will always be 15 to 5 prior, or that's just a typical example.
Seems like it's always 15 to 5 given the way it's calculated. This puts the aircraft into the gate within 5 mins of its scheduled IN time. You have to ACARS dispatch if you plan to fall outside that window.

This requires the ground crews to be absolutely ready every time, or performance will suffer. Thus, I predict that this policy won't last.
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Old 03-04-2018, 01:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Mesabah
This requires the ground crews to be absolutely ready every time, or performance will suffer. Thus, I predict that this policy won't last.
Extra policies only get added on, never taken away.
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Old 03-04-2018, 04:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Mesabah
This requires the ground crews to be absolutely ready every time, or performance will suffer. Thus, I predict that this policy won't last.
Come on now.....are you saying that ground crews aren't always waiting with bells on when we arrive at the gate?
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Old 03-04-2018, 06:38 PM
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Omg this DL captain is about to do a gate announcement on this delay!!!

(Steals gate agents stapler and walks away)

Never mind.....

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Old 03-04-2018, 08:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Casualinterest
Omg this DL captain is about to do a gate announcement on this delay!!!

(Steals gate agents stapler and walks away)

Never mind.....

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Old 03-04-2018, 08:55 PM
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Lol I feel like I need to watch this show

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Old 03-05-2018, 03:24 AM
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Originally Posted by Casualinterest
Lol I feel like I need to watch this show

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It's ok as long as you go into knowing it's not intended in any way to reflect actual airline life. It's corny but worth the investment for the laughs
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Old 03-05-2018, 10:49 AM
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Originally Posted by KSCessnaDriver
Because doing 250 down the KORRY4 is going to go so well. These airports that the targeted landing window is going to make a difference at, are so ATC speed controlled that it isn’t going to be possible to fly a speed.
I think here's what pilots should do. Block out as close to ontime as possible. Within 5 minutes. Then, fly the speed the flight plan says, manage fuel along the way, check weather, monitor aircraft systems, be safe using known methods like TEM, be ready for the descend via clearance and comply with ATC instructions. Let the bean counters worry about the other crap. In other words, don't change anything. Not our problem to be tail routers and pax coordinaters. eff that ess.
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Old 03-05-2018, 10:53 AM
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Originally Posted by greenroute
Extra policies only get added on, never taken away.
lmao, great point. But I'm sure theres one or two people who can call the new policy a safety issue lol
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