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Well, not exactly. It's really unclear what they meant in the memo. It says not to call for a gate assignment, but does that mean not to call for gate confirmation for what you got over ACARS? Also, it clearly says not to call Special Assist about anything routine, but that doesn't mean Gatekeeper.
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The release is clearer... do not call gatekeeper, just go to the gate you received during in-range call. (Paraphrasing here, but it’s on the release)
I’ve only seen once where we got to the gate and it was occupied, but I’m not sure if that was before the new system was in place or after. So from now on, no more gatekeeper calls. If we get to a gate and it’s full, I’ll call ops and let them handle it.
I’ve only seen once where we got to the gate and it was occupied, but I’m not sure if that was before the new system was in place or after. So from now on, no more gatekeeper calls. If we get to a gate and it’s full, I’ll call ops and let them handle it.
Well, not exactly. It's really unclear what they meant in the memo. It says not to call for a gate assignment, but does that mean not to call for gate confirmation for what you got over ACARS? Also, it clearly says not to call Special Assist about anything routine, but that doesn't mean Gatekeeper.
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Joined APC: Feb 2017
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So for most people, this TA results in a paycut, but I dont understand why everyone is saying we have to credit 83 hours a month to break even. With the 83 hour [B]diviser[B], we are taking a $2250/annum paycut at min guarantee. That comes out to be 78 hours credit a month for second year FO, and 77 hours credit a month for a 3rd year 900 captain. And no, that's not including the mickey mouse perdiem increase, or the 401k, which again is a joke. Still a paycut at min guarantee, what I want to know is, why are people saying we need to credit 83 hours to break even.
So for most people, this TA results in a paycut, but I dont understand why everyone is saying we have to credit 83 hours a month to break even. With the 83 hour [B]diviser[B], we are taking a $2250/annum paycut at min guarantee. That comes out to be 78 hours credit a month for second year FO, and 77 hours credit a month for a 3rd year 900 captain. And no, that's not including the mickey mouse perdiem increase, or the 401k, which again is a joke. Still a paycut at min guarantee, what I want to know is, why are people saying we need to credit 83 hours to break even.
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Joined APC: Mar 2008
Position: CRJ CA
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I think what they are saying is that, at 83 hours worked before AND after the TA, there would be no difference in pay. But this is confusing because people think that if they are currently working 75 hours a month that they must now work 83 to break even. For someone like me, if I were currently crediting 75 hours I would have to now credit 76.6 in order to make the same pay, all other variables being the same.
The math:
CR9 10 to 11 year 2018 = $88.21
CR9.TA 10 to 11 year 2018 = $111.3
$88.21 x 75 x 12 = $79,389 (plus $23,000) = $102,389
$111.3 x 75 x 12 = $100,170 (difference of -$2,219)
$111.3 x 76.67 x 12 = $102,389
Last edited by Theoden; 10-22-2017 at 05:14 PM.
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Joined APC: Jun 2016
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So for most people, this TA results in a paycut, but I dont understand why everyone is saying we have to credit 83 hours a month to break even. With the 83 hour [B]diviser[B], we are taking a $2250/annum paycut at min guarantee. That comes out to be 78 hours credit a month for second year FO, and 77 hours credit a month for a 3rd year 900 captain. And no, that's not including the mickey mouse perdiem increase, or the 401k, which again is a joke. Still a paycut at min guarantee, what I want to know is, why are people saying we need to credit 83 hours to break even.
This may be a tough one for newbies to understand, but endeavor has industry leading soft pay. Only one person found themselves at the 75 hour rate average last year of the entire pilot group (not just voters, the entire pilot group). Judging from my captains, even the 2 yr guys here still haven't opened rainmaker. Unless you're dropping trips and reserve days month after month, you're not at the 75hr rate, which is why you're never going to get it.
Only 280 of us are below the 83 hours average, and I'm not one of them.
Vote yes, vote the pay raise.
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