Any "Latest & Greatest" about Endeavor?
10-09-2017, 08:19 AM
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The 10k wouldn't come online till probably Febuary. You would have made more then 10K here by than anyway... not worth the wait. Waiting for a bonus that is hypothetically possible is not worth lost wages and seniority.
10-09-2017, 08:23 AM
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I don't think you know what you are talking about. As someone who has done 7+ years of reserve as one of the bottom 900 CA's, I can tell you that CNO was a huge relief from the high amount of schedule swapping done on the old reserve system.
Ending p3 2 on 1 off won't do anything for scheduling, because once you are used for a CDO, unless there is another CDO, you are not usable. What the company wants to do is get the senior guys off 2/1 reserve, so they can push p3 on the most junior pilots in position, however, this won't work because in the many years I worked reserve, P3 was always bid by pilots who had weeks of vacation. This means that the CDO's will be covered by p1 pilots, or 2 p2 pilots.
I wouldn't be surprised by the company eliminating CDOs in the next few years, they don't have the resources to cover these flights.
Ending p3 2 on 1 off won't do anything for scheduling, because once you are used for a CDO, unless there is another CDO, you are not usable. What the company wants to do is get the senior guys off 2/1 reserve, so they can push p3 on the most junior pilots in position, however, this won't work because in the many years I worked reserve, P3 was always bid by pilots who had weeks of vacation. This means that the CDO's will be covered by p1 pilots, or 2 p2 pilots.
I wouldn't be surprised by the company eliminating CDOs in the next few years, they don't have the resources to cover these flights.
10-09-2017, 08:49 AM
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If P3 and CDO are so bad for pilot productivity, then get rid of those, don't force reserves into longer stretches of reserve days.
10-09-2017, 09:30 AM
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That's what he doesn't understand, it's just an excuse to push less reserves harder than before. The senior pilots bidding 2 on 1 off will switch to max days off lines. LCR will now get the CDO's, where P3 will always be swapped around making it horrible. This is exactly what happened last time we had LCR, and 2 on 1 off was the only defense against it. More coverage = less pilots, less pay.
10-09-2017, 10:03 AM
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That's what he doesn't understand, it's just an excuse to push less reserves harder than before. The senior pilots bidding 2 on 1 off will switch to max days off lines. LCR will now get the CDO's, where P3 will always be swapped around making it horrible. This is exactly what happened last time we had LCR, and 2 on 1 off was the only defense against it. More coverage = less pilots, less pay.
With this new iteration of Long Call, they can escalate you that way but then it pays 150% until they release you back to long call. Sounds like a good financial disincentive to escalate unnecessarily.
Now to be fair, before they were TERRIBLE at figuring out how to use long calls, I once sat home 28 days one month. It sounds like they're going to assign those first now, and consequently the long calls will actually work.
As for the 15 hrs vs 1 extra day off, as I've said elsewhere. I doubt if they will use that 15 hrs very frequently, but you know what they WILL do? Give you an extra day off EVERY month.
I agree with you it'd be nice to further limit or prohibit contact period swaps, but I don't see that as a reason to vote no on all the good this TA brings.
As a long time reserve, I can understand and appreciate that you may feel differently.
That's why we each get a vote.
10-09-2017, 11:04 AM
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Actually as I recall it, our previous Long Call Reserve they could escalate you to short call reserve 2 times per month, which really meant that you were only long call half a month at a time because they ALWAYS escalated you the 2 times.
With this new iteration of Long Call, they can escalate you that way but then it pays 150% until they release you back to long call. Sounds like a good financial disincentive to escalate unnecessarily.
Now to be fair, before they were TERRIBLE at figuring out how to use long calls, I once sat home 28 days one month. It sounds like they're going to assign those first now, and consequently the long calls will actually work.
As for the 15 hrs vs 1 extra day off, as I've said elsewhere. I doubt if they will use that 15 hrs very frequently, but you know what they WILL do? Give you an extra day off EVERY month.
I agree with you it'd be nice to further limit or prohibit contact period swaps, but I don't see that as a reason to vote no on all the good this TA brings.
As a long time reserve, I can understand and appreciate that you may feel differently.
That's why we each get a vote.
With this new iteration of Long Call, they can escalate you that way but then it pays 150% until they release you back to long call. Sounds like a good financial disincentive to escalate unnecessarily.
Now to be fair, before they were TERRIBLE at figuring out how to use long calls, I once sat home 28 days one month. It sounds like they're going to assign those first now, and consequently the long calls will actually work.
As for the 15 hrs vs 1 extra day off, as I've said elsewhere. I doubt if they will use that 15 hrs very frequently, but you know what they WILL do? Give you an extra day off EVERY month.
I agree with you it'd be nice to further limit or prohibit contact period swaps, but I don't see that as a reason to vote no on all the good this TA brings.
As a long time reserve, I can understand and appreciate that you may feel differently.
That's why we each get a vote.
10-09-2017, 11:07 AM
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Joined APC: Jan 2015
Position: CRJ 200 CA
Posts: 210
That's what he doesn't understand, it's just an excuse to push less reserves harder than before. The senior pilots bidding 2 on 1 off will switch to max days off lines. LCR will now get the CDO's, where P3 will always be swapped around making it horrible. This is exactly what happened last time we had LCR, and 2 on 1 off was the only defense against it. More coverage = less pilots, less pay.
10-09-2017, 12:27 PM
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Well, how far is your drive from JFK? The short call window extends to 2:30 to either JFK or LGA, so you need to make it to the terminal in one of those 2 airports within 2:30 of when you get in contact with CS about a SC reserve assignment. Long Call you have to be within 12 hours of each airport in NYC- or the airport in our singular bases.
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