WesternSkies

I was curious.
I was blown away.
Then I looked it up for myself.
Literally none of those airlines pay 23000+ bonuses to all the pilots.
Only Endeavor does.

Casualinterest

Well sorta. They all pay around 20k signing and their hourly rate is higher. PSA has a second year and third year kicker to keep it competitive. They're all still lower in year two though, but with their benefits being better it's an easy sell.

PSA: 21k with type (15k wo)
Pdt: 20k with type (15k wo)
Envoy: 20k with type (15k wo?)

All of their hourly is higher than ours and they get commuter rooms.

PSA and envoy also get that 10k per year kicker until they upgrade then get a CA retention bonus I believe.




However, look at Air Wisconsin's new package for real inspiration...

First year $35
Second year $41

8% 401k match
25% insurance premium share

$57,000 in sign-on bonus. Which is the highest in the industry. First installment of $5,000; paid on first paycheck. $26,000 to be paid upon completion of IOE, and $10,000 to be paid after first anniversary. $8,000 is to be paid out quarterly in year three if the pilot has not been upgraded to Captain. The remaining $8,000 is paid to pilots who join Air Wisconsin from a Part 91K, 121, or 135 carrier with an ATP and type rating in an aircraft greater than 12,500.

So if you go with a type you will have received 49k in bonuses within the first 13 months if I understand correctly.

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Yumyum

Or just want a piece of the pie you ********!

Yumyum

He hasn't even popped his regional 🍒

Avroman

This is why we should have pushed back in 2012.... 2 weeks wind down instead of 8 months... or a reasonable contract... Too bad most had a foot out the door and most of the rest had to eat crap because most of the rest were screwed already. Better yet we should have dropped every pilot's resignation on the bench and flushed this turd down the drain.

HighFlight

Glad you blew yourself away with your inability to understand total compensation. You go with your bad self.

$23K is the second-highest bonus being paid (go look at Air Whiskey). But did you compare hourly wages? M&IE rates? Most places dip in year 2 & 3, which we don't (yet, until/if the 83 hour "pay raise" takes effect). But we are no longer leading the industry in first year pay. 2nd? Perhaps; I quit looking because it really doesn't matter any longer.

HighFlight

Even if the company contributes more, what happens if you draw your 401K in a year(s) like 2007/08? What then?

Unless you are getting a 16% contribution such as Delta offers, or something like FedEx does, your 401K is simply a promise made in smoke.

Avroman

All this talk of getting more from the company.... what is Delta wanting in return????

TalkTurkey

Sooooo, do we abort for ITT excedence or not? The latest memo says not to but lists it as a criteria for abort.

Green Needles

Your soul...