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Old 08-05-2017, 06:06 AM
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Originally Posted by Casualinterest
Dude, hold on.... It's your choice to fly more than 75. Just like it's our choice to spend time with our families, children, spouses, babys, etc. You were hired at 75 hours with the option to work more and you take it, awesome for you! You essentially agreed to pick up extra shifts to earn overtime pay. Sweet!

Basing it off anything other than 75 is saying now you HAVE to work more whether you want to or not or else suffer a pay cut. What happens when the economy turns and there's less open time to pick up? What happens during recurrent months when you barely clear 75. What happens when your wife gets sick and needs you home more? What happens when............? You get the point.

I cannot fathom how you people are suggesting it's ok to accept a scenario where you have to work more than you've agreed to in order to make the same amount of money, and lose money when you can't. If this was any other industry there would be protests in the streets. You agreeing to work more does not debase or devalue those of us who simply work what we've agreed to in our offer letter. And for those of us who do occasionally make less than 83 hours, we'll be taking a pay cut in the largest period of pay growth in pilot history. How does that statement alone not turn your stomach?





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Spot on. However I feel that it will pass because many many of the younger folk pick up sh*& left and center. Those guys will certainly vote yes, in my opinion, because let's face it, when it boils down to the bollocks, they will do what suits them. Perhaps I should be even and say, we will vote to what suits us. In that sense, I believe we will have a very divided ranking on this one.
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Old 08-05-2017, 06:13 AM
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Originally Posted by gojo
So in your opinion it's coincidence that this is happening right after we open a 200 base in Atlanta. Express Jet guys are LTAO
Dang yo. 6 mess ups in 30 days. That's pretty bad I think. I'm LMAO at us too. I think a contributing factor to this is building the FMS waypoints from the middle and then the SID and ARR. In ATL, I think when using RNAV SIDS, the pilots should first select the runway, then the SID, then the rest of the motherluvin track. But I guess we will never know, will we?
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Old 08-05-2017, 06:22 AM
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Originally Posted by CMA757
Thanks I might consider that if this continues. Two captains in the last two weeks have made comments. Absolutely absurd. I'm fairly new and I think that might be part of the problem.
Let me guess you are a self entitled millennial Cry baby? Someone makes a comment and you get butt hurt?? You won't make it here. Go to sky worst you will fit in much better there. And you look stupid wearing a hat!! there is a harassing statement....
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Old 08-05-2017, 06:33 AM
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Originally Posted by Casualinterest
Dude, hold on.... It's your choice to fly more than 75. Just like it's our choice to spend time with our families, children, spouses, babys, etc. You were hired at 75 hours with the option to work more and you take it, awesome for you! You essentially agreed to pick up extra shifts to earn overtime pay. Sweet!

Basing it off anything other than 75 is saying now you HAVE to work more whether you want to or not or else suffer a pay cut. What happens when the economy turns and there's less open time to pick up? What happens during recurrent months when you barely clear 75. What happens when your wife gets sick and needs you home more? What happens when............? You get the point.

I cannot fathom how you people are suggesting it's ok to accept a scenario where you have to work more than you've agreed to in order to make the same amount of money, and lose money when you can't. If this was any other industry there would be protests in the streets. You agreeing to work more does not debase or devalue those of us who simply work what we've agreed to in our offer letter. And for those of us who do occasionally make less than 83 hours, we'll be taking a pay cut in the largest period of pay growth in pilot history. How does that statement alone not turn your stomach?





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This ^^^^^^!! and what about us reserves and CDO guys??? pay cuts for all of us. Too many kool aid drinking monkeys here...with the mind set of I'll take what they offer me...you are all bad people. Let the bonus expire and then we will have ultimate leverage as this place implodes again.
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Old 08-05-2017, 06:42 AM
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Originally Posted by whoareyou311
Let me guess you are a self entitled millennial Cry baby? Someone makes a comment and you get butt hurt?? You won't make it here. Go to sky worst you will fit in much better there. And you look stupid wearing a hat!! there is a harassing statement....
Lmao. Jesus!
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Old 08-05-2017, 06:44 AM
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Originally Posted by Urbandrone
Flawed thinking. 75 in the minimum pay for a month, not the maximum I agreed to work for. You get paid for what you do, do the absolute minimum and that is what you should get paid for. Basing the bonus on 75 hours is a huge pay raise for the majority of pilots, the only ones who wouldn't get a raise are the pilot who choose to work the absolute minimum.
Take a look at Delta's CRJ-900 pay scale, then tell me again about why we don't deserve a huge pay raise.
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Old 08-05-2017, 06:49 AM
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Originally Posted by whoareyou311
Let me guess you are a self entitled millennial Cry baby? Someone makes a comment and you get butt hurt?? You won't make it here. Go to sky worst you will fit in much better there. And you look stupid wearing a hat!! there is a harassing statement....
What the actual hell is wrong with you?
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Old 08-05-2017, 08:32 AM
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Originally Posted by WhiskeyKilo
What the actual hell is wrong with you?
I think one of the hat harassers inadvertently outed himself.

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Old 08-05-2017, 08:37 AM
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Originally Posted by vessbot
I think one of the hat harrassers inadvertently outed himself.
Yup big harasser here bro. If after 5 minutes of talking to someone and I know they will get butt hurt easily about me joking about the hat and the reasons I don't wear it, I don't bring it up. ****

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Old 08-05-2017, 08:48 AM
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Originally Posted by whoareyou311
Yup big harasser here bro. If after 5 minutes of talking to someone and I know they will get butt hurt easily about me joking about the hat and the reasons I don't wear it, I don't bring it up. So **** off
I'd ask you for your employee number so I can make sure to bring my hat if we ever fly together, but I wouldn't wanna trigger you any worse than you already are. I mean there's joking and there's taking things too far!
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