Any "Latest & Greatest" about Endeavor?
08-05-2017, 07:06 AM
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Dude, hold on.... It's your choice to fly more than 75. Just like it's our choice to spend time with our families, children, spouses, babys, etc. You were hired at 75 hours with the option to work more and you take it, awesome for you! You essentially agreed to pick up extra shifts to earn overtime pay. Sweet!
Basing it off anything other than 75 is saying now you HAVE to work more whether you want to or not or else suffer a pay cut. What happens when the economy turns and there's less open time to pick up? What happens during recurrent months when you barely clear 75. What happens when your wife gets sick and needs you home more? What happens when............? You get the point.
I cannot fathom how you people are suggesting it's ok to accept a scenario where you have to work more than you've agreed to in order to make the same amount of money, and lose money when you can't. If this was any other industry there would be protests in the streets. You agreeing to work more does not debase or devalue those of us who simply work what we've agreed to in our offer letter. And for those of us who do occasionally make less than 83 hours, we'll be taking a pay cut in the largest period of pay growth in pilot history. How does that statement alone not turn your stomach?
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Basing it off anything other than 75 is saying now you HAVE to work more whether you want to or not or else suffer a pay cut. What happens when the economy turns and there's less open time to pick up? What happens during recurrent months when you barely clear 75. What happens when your wife gets sick and needs you home more? What happens when............? You get the point.
I cannot fathom how you people are suggesting it's ok to accept a scenario where you have to work more than you've agreed to in order to make the same amount of money, and lose money when you can't. If this was any other industry there would be protests in the streets. You agreeing to work more does not debase or devalue those of us who simply work what we've agreed to in our offer letter. And for those of us who do occasionally make less than 83 hours, we'll be taking a pay cut in the largest period of pay growth in pilot history. How does that statement alone not turn your stomach?
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08-05-2017, 07:13 AM
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Dang yo. 6 mess ups in 30 days. That's pretty bad I think. I'm LMAO at us too. I think a contributing factor to this is building the FMS waypoints from the middle and then the SID and ARR. In ATL, I think when using RNAV SIDS, the pilots should first select the runway, then the SID, then the rest of the motherluvin track. But I guess we will never know, will we?
08-05-2017, 07:22 AM
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Let me guess you are a self entitled millennial Cry baby? Someone makes a comment and you get butt hurt?? You won't make it here. Go to sky worst you will fit in much better there. And you look stupid wearing a hat!! there is a harassing statement....
08-05-2017, 07:33 AM
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Dude, hold on.... It's your choice to fly more than 75. Just like it's our choice to spend time with our families, children, spouses, babys, etc. You were hired at 75 hours with the option to work more and you take it, awesome for you! You essentially agreed to pick up extra shifts to earn overtime pay. Sweet!
Basing it off anything other than 75 is saying now you HAVE to work more whether you want to or not or else suffer a pay cut. What happens when the economy turns and there's less open time to pick up? What happens during recurrent months when you barely clear 75. What happens when your wife gets sick and needs you home more? What happens when............? You get the point.
I cannot fathom how you people are suggesting it's ok to accept a scenario where you have to work more than you've agreed to in order to make the same amount of money, and lose money when you can't. If this was any other industry there would be protests in the streets. You agreeing to work more does not debase or devalue those of us who simply work what we've agreed to in our offer letter. And for those of us who do occasionally make less than 83 hours, we'll be taking a pay cut in the largest period of pay growth in pilot history. How does that statement alone not turn your stomach?
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Basing it off anything other than 75 is saying now you HAVE to work more whether you want to or not or else suffer a pay cut. What happens when the economy turns and there's less open time to pick up? What happens during recurrent months when you barely clear 75. What happens when your wife gets sick and needs you home more? What happens when............? You get the point.
I cannot fathom how you people are suggesting it's ok to accept a scenario where you have to work more than you've agreed to in order to make the same amount of money, and lose money when you can't. If this was any other industry there would be protests in the streets. You agreeing to work more does not debase or devalue those of us who simply work what we've agreed to in our offer letter. And for those of us who do occasionally make less than 83 hours, we'll be taking a pay cut in the largest period of pay growth in pilot history. How does that statement alone not turn your stomach?
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This ^^^^^^!! and what about us reserves and CDO guys??? pay cuts for all of us. Too many kool aid drinking monkeys here...with the mind set of I'll take what they offer me...you are all bad people. Let the bonus expire and then we will have ultimate leverage as this place implodes again.
08-05-2017, 07:42 AM
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08-05-2017, 07:44 AM
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Flawed thinking. 75 in the minimum pay for a month, not the maximum I agreed to work for. You get paid for what you do, do the absolute minimum and that is what you should get paid for. Basing the bonus on 75 hours is a huge pay raise for the majority of pilots, the only ones who wouldn't get a raise are the pilot who choose to work the absolute minimum.
08-05-2017, 07:49 AM
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What the actual hell is wrong with you?
08-05-2017, 09:37 AM
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Yup big harasser here bro. If after 5 minutes of talking to someone and I know they will get butt hurt easily about me joking about the hat and the reasons I don't wear it, I don't bring it up. ****
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08-05-2017, 09:48 AM
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I'd ask you for your employee number so I can make sure to bring my hat if we ever fly together, but I wouldn't wanna trigger you any worse than you already are. I mean there's joking and there's taking things too far!
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