Interesting (and concerning) that the issues sound a lot more creative than your average 'was handflying and didn't follow the RNAV track precisely enough' error.

08-04-2017, 11:54 AM

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wiggy15

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Originally Posted by Arvik

Interesting (and concerning) that the issues sound a lot more creative than your average 'was handflying and didn't follow the RNAV track precisely enough' error.

These guys should be embarrassed. The memo has some examples from last month in it. Some are as clueless as heading mode with a 90 degree turn on an RNAV Departure. How was that not caught? I'm far from perfect but some things make you scratch your head.....really representing us well in the motherland.

08-04-2017, 12:22 PM

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CRJ All Day

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Well the final shows the most junior DTW 900 Captain only has two years and one month at the company

08-04-2017, 01:25 PM

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Edgecrusher28

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Originally Posted by wiggy15

Speed mode, back course, white needles....

08-04-2017, 01:27 PM

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gojo

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Originally Posted by wiggy15

I'm not even sure what to say here. I mean, we've been doing R-nav departures for many years. ATL, DFW, among others? Why suddenly is there a problem? Seems like if anyone should be embarrassed it's the training department. I guarantee they'll be concentrating on this in the future. But yes, it does raise some concerns

08-04-2017, 01:56 PM

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Originally Posted by whoareyou311

I am curious how many new captains are involved with this...these new guys are really getting reputation for themselves.

Careful, I resemble that remark. Seriously, i got a couple ATL turns on my first trip out of OE, and didn't encounter anything that a good briefing didn't help with. I've made my share of rookie captain mistakes, but what kind of stuff is giving new captains a reputation?

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08-04-2017, 04:04 PM

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whoareyou311

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Originally Posted by StrangeBrew

Resemble all you want...do I really need to write a book on this? Just for starters you new guys are writing stuff up in the book that is already MEL'd....I've also seen written up FDR status message...and guess what the employee numbers are that I see over and over again???