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Old 07-30-2017, 01:18 PM
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Originally Posted by prex8390
Mainline money, flow, long call, better reserve rules, more 401k, long and short hotels, cheaper but better insurance More or less everything mainline has seems to be the common topic
Delta +1 would be nice, as long as it had flow.


No pay cut intergrating the bonus into payrates, and normal raises there after. Short/Long/ better hotels. Better reserve rules. More defined Career Prgression.
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Old 07-30-2017, 02:06 PM
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The only way to get a flow is to violate the Delta pilot scope clause, we did that pretty much with the SSP as well. That's not a road you really want to go down. However, we should be fighting for at least mainline pay rates/benefits.
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Old 07-30-2017, 02:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Kforekyle
What!!! Ok how about the 20+year sim instructors/check airmen that got the double No? Smart move, I think not. Don't even go there buddy!
That has nothing to do with the other. I can think of many examples of people who Delta should have, and should not have hired. If you are unreliable as an employee, they probably won't hire you, as the potential for abuse is way higher on their contract.
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Old 07-30-2017, 06:18 PM
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I think reality is going to be disappointing. SkyWest pilots agreeing to
a very small raise basically screwed the industry. We have to be cost
competitive with them sadly. I think our negotiating committee is
going to run into a brick wall.
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Old 07-30-2017, 07:18 PM
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Originally Posted by msprj2
I think reality is going to be disappointing. SkyWest pilots agreeing to
a very small raise basically screwed the industry. We have to be cost
competitive with them sadly. I think our negotiating committee is
going to run into a brick wall.
We should have taken the company proposal of locking in the bonus as a two week payout.
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Old 07-30-2017, 07:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Mesabah
We should have taken the company proposal of locking in the bonus as a two week payout.
Probably, plus 401k, vac, long call, sick time, perdiem.
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Old 07-30-2017, 08:06 PM
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Love watching you guys ***** about nothing. We are regional pilots a dime a dozeing get your degree And move on. You should't need a DGI if your good at what you do. Been here 2 months and I'm on to DELTA
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Old 07-30-2017, 08:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Folric
Love watching you guys ***** about nothing. We are regional pilots a dime a dozeing get your degree And move on. You should't need a DGI if your good at what you do. Been here 2 months and I'm on to DELTA
Enjoy dozeing at Delta
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Old 07-30-2017, 08:29 PM
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Originally Posted by web500sjc
Delta +1 would be nice, as long as it had flow.


No pay cut intergrating the bonus into payrates, and normal raises there after. Short/Long/ better hotels. Better reserve rules. More defined Career Prgression.
This sums it up nicely from everyone I've talked to. No pay cut for anyone on property. Long call reserve. Career progression.



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Old 07-30-2017, 08:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Folric
Love watching you guys ***** about nothing. We are regional pilots a dime a dozeing get your degree And move on. You should't need a DGI if your good at what you do. Been here 2 months and I'm on to DELTA
I'm happy for you, just a quick question though. What's your definition of "Good at what you do?". What do you do differently than other pilots? What makes you special? Because let's be honest a degree means 0. Almost everyone here has a degree. So don't use that lame excuse of getting a degree. In fact I've flown with several people here that have masters degrees... Yet no call. Also another thing I'd like to add, is that I've flown with pilots that don't have a degree. Yet they are amazing at what they do as pilots. Not just good. Getting a position at Delta has nothing to do with getting a degree... It's all about knowing how to play the game, and knowing which boxes to check.
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