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Old 07-16-2017, 05:39 AM
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Originally Posted by Bozo
You might be surprised by what is announced.
What? You mean we aren't getting 500 triple-7 three-hundreds for the CVG to Djibouti run?
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Old 07-16-2017, 06:07 AM
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If only they'd get rid of that idiotic blast fence parking now
Absolutely disgraceful to park at the fence and watch some 80 year old woman struggle to make it down the stairs because she's got a tight connect and can't wait for the lift. It's the most direct statement you can make about whether or not money or customer service is your priority.

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Old 07-16-2017, 06:46 AM
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Originally Posted by Casualinterest
Absolutely disgraceful to park at the fence and watch some 80 year old woman struggle to make it down the stairs because she's got a tight connect and can't wait for the lift. It's the most direct statement you can make about whether or not money or customer service is your priority.

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They should send some people down to DCA to see how American runs Gate 35X, because for all the negative talk about that setup, it's still a lot better than the blast fence. Some ramps and a fleet of proper low-floor buses would go a long way. It's not like the new terminal is just around the corner - we'll probably be waiting five or ten years for that.
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Old 07-16-2017, 06:47 AM
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Originally Posted by Bozo
You might be surprised by what is announced.
As long as it's not a merger.
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Old 07-16-2017, 07:11 AM
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Originally Posted by Arvik
They should send some people down to DCA to see how American runs Gate 35X, because for all the negative talk about that setup, it's still a lot better than the blast fence. Some ramps and a fleet of proper low-floor buses would go a long way. It's not like the new terminal is just around the corner - we'll probably be waiting five or ten years for that.
I'll flat out but politely disagree, coming from awac and flying out of 35x regularly, it was a nightmare compared to the blast fence, yeah they at least have a gantryway, but the buses would either show up 40 early or 2 minutes before departure, mostly the latter and then they would get on all up on you for running late. God forbid you had a wheelchair on arrival, the special assist bus would regularly take 45 minutes to show up, usually you'd have the next flight bus there and still waiting to deplane someone with a wheeelchair. A good day was also having actual rampers to meet the plane or have to call less than 3 times to someone come out, usually after the 4th time you'd see someone climb out of a baggage cart from a nap and then walk as slow as possible to come over. Not even exaggerating.
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Old 07-16-2017, 07:46 AM
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Originally Posted by prex8390
I'll flat out but politely disagree, coming from awac and flying out of 35x regularly, it was a nightmare compared to the blast fence, yeah they at least have a gantryway, but the buses would either show up 40 early or 2 minutes before departure, mostly the latter and then they would get on all up on you for running late. God forbid you had a wheelchair on arrival, the special assist bus would regularly take 45 minutes to show up, usually you'd have the next flight bus there and still waiting to deplane someone with a wheeelchair. A good day was also having actual rampers to meet the plane or have to call less than 3 times to someone come out, usually after the 4th time you'd see someone climb out of a baggage cart from a nap and then walk as slow as possible to come over. Not even exaggerating.
Yeah but the stairs are a accident waiting to happen. Especially when the winds are gusting. Older people shouldn't have to deal with that nonsense. If we have multiple wheelchairs.....the airplane WILL sit until a gate becomes available. I've seen too many close calls. One fall from the elderly can end their life. It's just not worth it.
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Old 07-16-2017, 08:51 AM
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Originally Posted by Bozo
You might be surprised by what is announced.
If it's anything like the last few announcements we are going to be underwhelmed and still stuck with shrinking bases to fill NYC and seniority stagnation.
Don't get your hopes up. All we are to management is a cost that needs to be controlled. In the end we are looked at as glorified bus drivers.
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Old 07-16-2017, 09:05 AM
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Originally Posted by Yumyum
Yeah but the stairs are a accident waiting to happen. Especially when the winds are gusting. Older people shouldn't have to deal with that nonsense. If we have multiple wheelchairs.....the airplane WILL sit until a gate becomes available. I've seen too many close calls. One fall from the elderly can end their life. It's just not worth it.
I've requested a Gate via ACARS when full of Seniors or Straight Backs etc. It generally works.
Occasionally still directed to the fence; and a polite but firm request of Ops (not Ramp) does the job.
We're responsible for our passengers until they're off the aircraft.
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Old 07-16-2017, 09:20 AM
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Originally Posted by prex8390
I'll flat out but politely disagree, coming from awac and flying out of 35x regularly, it was a nightmare compared to the blast fence, yeah they at least have a gantryway, but the buses would either show up 40 early or 2 minutes before departure, mostly the latter and then they would get on all up on you for running late. God forbid you had a wheelchair on arrival, the special assist bus would regularly take 45 minutes to show up, usually you'd have the next flight bus there and still waiting to deplane someone with a wheeelchair. A good day was also having actual rampers to meet the plane or have to call less than 3 times to someone come out, usually after the 4th time you'd see someone climb out of a baggage cart from a nap and then walk as slow as possible to come over. Not even exaggerating.
I'll accept the point about the speed with which things moved - that's certainly fair. I was referring more to the equipment setup, though.
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Old 07-16-2017, 12:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Casualinterest
Absolutely disgraceful to park at the fence and watch some 80 year old woman struggle to make it down the stairs because she's got a tight connect and can't wait for the lift. It's the most direct statement you can make about whether or not money or customer service is your priority.

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At least the new terminal will have premium blast fence parking.


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