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Old 07-08-2017, 09:49 AM
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Originally Posted by Avroman
They know that closing either DTW or MSP would cause a big cascading displacement that would potentially kill this company. If you flush the super senior out of DTW or MSP by force then an already souring pilot group would explode.
Staple would solve all the problems in the world (flow is so yesterday). Get it done!
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Old 07-08-2017, 10:12 AM
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Staple would solve all the problems in the world (flow is so yesterday). Get it done!
Do something....anything !
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Old 07-08-2017, 10:57 AM
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No vacancy notice and no negotiations update. Hmmmmmmm...

Nothing good comes from silence on both sides of the table.
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Old 07-08-2017, 11:12 AM
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Originally Posted by WhiskeyKilo
No vacancy notice and no negotiations update. Hmmmmmmm...

Nothing good comes from silence on both sides of the table.
That's why I say reach out to our union reps. Hold them accountable. The l lack of updates is unacceptable
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Old 07-08-2017, 01:51 PM
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Default dtw/msp september flying...wtf

July flights: DTW (921-9s, 1263-2s, 2184 total), MSP (659-9s, 961-2s, 1620 total), ATL (351-9s, 978-2s, 1329 total).

August flights: DTW (826-9s, 1202-2s, 2028 total), MSP (656-9s, 948-2s, 1604 total), ATL (286-9s, 1393-2s, 1679 total).

September flights: DTW (575-9s, 912-2s, 1487 total), MSP (570-9s, 749-2s, 1319 total), ATL (207-9s, 1678-2s, 1678 total).

DTW and MSP #4 and 5 now behind LGA, JFK, and soon to be ATL.... if there is potential news about fleet growth/change... they might want to say something soon.

Some of this I think is summer drop off/some it... not

DTW August to September drop off... 25%
MSP August to September drop off... 18%
LGA August to September drop off... 15%
JFK August to September drop off... 11%
ATL August to September GAIN... 12%

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Old 07-08-2017, 02:08 PM
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Originally Posted by saab340driver
Staple would solve all the problems in the world (flow is so yesterday). Get it done!
I'll vote "No" to any contract that doesn't have a flow, increase our scope to 150 passenger aircraft, has first year pay at $85, with a top at $225, also include "C' series flying. That's just to start. Well all should stand firm on 200% pick up on everything, 15 days of minimum, all long call reserve, DTW and MSP must have increases in flying, god knows these two airports or the center of our universe all other flying is meaningless. This is our only option to get ahead.

Well we could probably just wear our hats, give gate announcements, have a positive attitude and get hired by Delta two years after upgrade... but that is to simple, lets fight instead!
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Old 07-08-2017, 03:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Urbandrone
I'll vote "No" to any contract that doesn't have a flow, increase our scope to 150 passenger aircraft, has first year pay at $85, with a top at $225, also include "C' series flying. That's just to start. Well all should stand firm on 200% pick up on everything, 15 days of minimum, all long call reserve, DTW and MSP must have increases in flying, god knows these two airports or the center of our universe all other flying is meaningless. This is our only option to get ahead.

Well we could probably just wear our hats, give gate announcements, have a positive attitude and get hired by Delta two years after upgrade... but that is to simple, lets fight instead!
Some people just want to watch the world burn.
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Old 07-08-2017, 06:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Urbandrone
I'll vote "No" to any contract that doesn't have a flow, increase our scope to 150 passenger aircraft, has first year pay at $85, with a top at $225, also include "C' series flying. That's just to start. Well all should stand firm on 200% pick up on everything, 15 days of minimum, all long call reserve, DTW and MSP must have increases in flying, god knows these two airports or the center of our universe all other flying is meaningless. This is our only option to get ahead.

Well we could probably just wear our hats, give gate announcements, have a positive attitude and get hired by Delta two years after upgrade... but that is to simple, lets fight instead!
And what for everyone that did all that and still got turned down by Delta?
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Can someone PM me the myIDtravel username and password. Trying to list for the jumpseat on southwest.

Thanks.
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Originally Posted by Urbandrone
I'll vote "No" to any contract that doesn't have a flow, increase our scope to 150 passenger aircraft, has first year pay at $85, with a top at $225, also include "C' series flying. That's just to start. Well all should stand firm on 200% pick up on everything, 15 days of minimum, all long call reserve, DTW and MSP must have increases in flying, god knows these two airports or the center of our universe all other flying is meaningless. This is our only option to get ahead.



Well we could probably just wear our hats, give gate announcements, have a positive attitude and get hired by Delta two years after upgrade... but that is to simple, lets fight instead!


Pretty arrogant statement here man. I'm all for having a positive attitude, trying my best and providing a safe enjoyable experience for the customer. I think you would have a hard time finding a person here that doesn't feel that way. But not wanting to improve our situation because "you are going to Delta in two years" is down right irresponsible and insulting to your fellow pilots. News flash!! Not everyone here has the same goals as you, not everyone here wants to work at Delta!!! There's a lot of guys here that want to make a career here at Endeavor, so why not try our best to get the best possible situation for THIS pilot group.

Get off your high horse and grow up.


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