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Old 05-14-2017, 05:08 PM
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Originally Posted by HeyOneTaco
135 King Air 350 SIC when the CA is single pilot typed...still can use an SIC when the op specs call for it, correct? Kind of like those citations that are single pilot rated too? The big kicker here would be 135 right?
It doesn't matter. We have CA's here that counted their Cape Air CA time towards 121..... which is illegal cause it's not turbine PIC. So we have a few illegal CA's at this company because they lied about their previous 121 time on their bid card. Just wait till the FAA catches wind. It's not the company's fault because it's the honor system as far as "total 121 time" so guys not qualified sitting in the left seat. And by guys I mean like 2 people. Cape Air 402 time don't count for those who think it does.
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Old 05-14-2017, 07:51 PM
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Originally Posted by FreightWasScary
It doesn't matter. We have CA's here that counted their Cape Air CA time towards 121..... which is illegal cause it's not turbine PIC. So we have a few illegal CA's at this company because they lied about their previous 121 time on their bid card. Just wait till the FAA catches wind. It's not the company's fault because it's the honor system as far as "total 121 time" so guys not qualified sitting in the left seat. And by guys I mean like 2 people. Cape Air 402 time don't count for those who think it does.
Cape Air 402 PIC time does count, because of 121.436(a)3 which states PIC operations under 135.243(a)1, count for 121 upgrade. 135.243(a)1 specifically mentions 3 types of operations which require an ATP. Of which Cape Air falls under the 3rd, which is "a multiengine airplane in a commuter operation as defined in part 119".

But please, continue to claim that you have to have turbine PIC to upgrade without reading the actual regulations, no skin off my back.
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Old 05-14-2017, 08:57 PM
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Any Detroiters want to get back in the Avro?
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Old 05-14-2017, 09:54 PM
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Metropolitan Airways Plans to Offer Business Flights at Detroit City Airport in 2018 - Daily News - Annual 2017 - Detroit, MI

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Old 05-14-2017, 10:35 PM
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Originally Posted by HeyOneTaco
135 King Air 350 SIC when the CA is single pilot typed...still can use an SIC when the op specs call for it, correct? Kind of like those citations that are single pilot rated too? The big kicker here would be 135 right?
If you read the two interpretations below it is clear what can and can not be logged as SIC. Many pilots fly C 208 and PC12 and log 135 SIC time that is not legal to log unless certain conditions are met. Then it gets better and log VFR SIC as well.



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https://www.faa.gov/about/office_org...rpretation.pdf

Above interpretation refers to this one.

https://www.faa.gov/about/office_org...rpretation.pdf
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Old 05-15-2017, 05:06 AM
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Their callsign better be "Motor City" or "Motown."
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Old 05-15-2017, 05:07 AM
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Originally Posted by Avroman
Nobody outside executives have a clue, as DTW and MSP have continued to shrink for the last 18 months now to feed the "growth"... really just shifting of flying into New York. It's the Delta shuffle that has been going on since they F-d Comair back around 2000 with the hostile buyout and Comair returned the favor with the 90ish day strike that nearly crippled Delta in the summer of 2001.
Look how much shuffling Delta has done since 2008 (the beginning of the merger with Northwest)
Right now 900 Captain in either DTW or MSP is a pipe dream for anyone under 10 years and a line holder is looking at probably more like 15 (it's hard to judge right now because of the debacle of the Bloch award... 07 Colgan holding lines while 01 Mesaba on reserve)
What's been officially stated is all talk of New York and Atlanta recently... Questions about MSP and DTW have been deftly deflected, much like questions about a flow... you make your own conclusions...
I want to get this correct. You think MSP and DTW are shrinking. Are you sure they are shrinking. Can you state that again fo clarity. Is there any growth anywhere. Anything good about this company? To complain about Deltas handling of things you're bringing up stuff that happened 17 years ago.
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Old 05-15-2017, 05:54 AM
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Originally Posted by Urbandrone
I want to get this correct. You think MSP and DTW are shrinking. Are you sure they are shrinking. Can you state that again fo clarity. Is there any growth anywhere. Anything good about this company? To complain about Deltas handling of things you're bringing up stuff that happened 17 years ago.
Think he's a lifer that's moving up to slow for his taste.
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Old 05-15-2017, 06:01 AM
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Originally Posted by Urbandrone
I want to get this correct. You think MSP and DTW are shrinking. Are you sure they are shrinking. Can you state that again fo clarity. Is there any growth anywhere. Anything good about this company? To complain about Deltas handling of things you're bringing up stuff that happened 17 years ago.
I didn't post this, but Delta announced that flying out of Minnie will be reduced by 5%. For Endeavor it's been reduced by a lot more than that. But I don't know the exact percentage. They haven't had a 900 captain or secondary vacancy awarded for 1-1/2 years Saw a friend the other day who's been here 14 years doing ready reserve in Minnie the other day.
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Old 05-15-2017, 07:05 AM
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Originally Posted by KSCessnaDriver
Cape Air 402 PIC time does count, because of 121.436(a)3 which states PIC operations under 135.243(a)1, count for 121 upgrade. 135.243(a)1 specifically mentions 3 types of operations which require an ATP. Of which Cape Air falls under the 3rd, which is "a multiengine airplane in a commuter operation as defined in part 119".

But please, continue to claim that you have to have turbine PIC to upgrade without reading the actual regulations, no skin off my back.
This. Cape Air captain time certainly does count.

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