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Old 03-22-2017, 04:43 AM
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Originally Posted by chucknav
Here is another job that requires a degree. It IS a requirement to have a 4-year degree to be an officer in the US Air Force and it doesn't matter what your degree is in. My degree was accounting and I was a navigator. It is simply a box you have to check. This is also true of many federal civilian jobs that I have looked at over the years. Check out usajobs.gov if you don't believe me. The federal government discriminates against non degree holders often.
I joined the GUARD as Navigator/WSO and no degree. Just had to promise to get a degree within 8 years after joining. It was a delayed degree entry program.

Something to think about for those that do not have a degree. If we ever get a flow but DAL still has a degree requirement then all expenses for getting a degree are tax deductible since it is a requirement to get the job.
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Old 03-22-2017, 05:31 AM
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Here's the most ironic part of regional v. mainline. Let's say you fly the 200. You have 5 flights today, and an average of 40 pax per flight. Let's see, that's 5x4 and add the zero (college degree stuff)--ok 200 passengers and 2 or 3/5 landings.

Mainline dude flies the 7ER one leg across the country with a load of 168 passengers and gets 0/1 or 1/1 landing.

Nope, I'll; go ahead and say it. Regional pilots PROBABLY have more experience than mainline pilots by way of takeoff/landing cycles, which btw raises our safety exponentially and measurably, and maybe-just-maybe some of us fly more passengers than our superiors, so-to-speak.
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Old 03-22-2017, 05:31 AM
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Originally Posted by Mesabah
Which jobs were those? Were the degrees required not in the specific field of work?
Legal assistant, administrative specialist, most general management positions, operation management positions, sales representatives in most fields, purchasing representatives, insurance underwriter, corporate project manager.... It almost easier to name the jobs that require a specific degree.
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Old 03-22-2017, 05:32 AM
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Originally Posted by Mesabah
It's fine to require a degree in a related field. However, having a degree in painting, or golf, as acceptable for an airline pilot job to check a box, is out of line.
You'd be foolish to think that what type of degree you get doesn't matter. If all other things were equal between two candidates, but one has a PE degree and the other has an engineering degree, which one do you think they will hire?

You can view the degree as a check in the box if you want, but most companies read a bit more into it. Many want to know how well you did, especially if they are going to invest money into training you. They want to know you have a history of performing well in a training. While physically flying the plane is a monkey skill that just about anyone can learn how to do, knowing all the other aspects of the industry that apply is more book learning. To that end, if you do get a degree in golf or painting, at least you have shown that you can pass a classroom environment and you are a better bet on successfully completing an expensive training program vs the guy who does not have a degree.
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Old 03-22-2017, 05:34 AM
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And don't get me started on situational awareness. I'll keep my comments away from the cockpit and just say, regional pilots stand either in front of or behind their luggage on escalators. Mainline pilots stand beside their luggage so as to not let anyone pass. haha. Go ahead, see for yourself.
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Old 03-22-2017, 05:39 AM
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If half of the degree complainers on here took a little time away from Airline Pilot Central each day then they would probably have doctorates by now!
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Old 03-22-2017, 06:02 AM
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Originally Posted by madeinUSA
If half of the degree complainers on here took a little time away from Airline Pilot Central each day then they would probably have doctorates by now!
I literally have nothing better to do. Haven't gotten called on reserve in over 2 weeks
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Old 03-22-2017, 06:10 AM
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Some were aviation support (logistics, QC, etc.), but many were not. Most of the jobs I was looking at wanted a degree (any) plus a certain amount of time working in that particular field.

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Which jobs were those? Were the degrees required not in the specific field of work?
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Old 03-22-2017, 06:17 AM
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Originally Posted by jethikoki
I joined the GUARD as Navigator/WSO and no degree. Just had to promise to get a degree within 8 years after joining. It was a delayed degree entry program.

Something to think about for those that do not have a degree. If we ever get a flow but DAL still has a degree requirement then all expenses for getting a degree are tax deductible since it is a requirement to get the job.
I was active duty. Pretty sure there is no delayed degree program for the regular Air Force. I wish I had been smart enough to join the guard first, rather than at the end of my career. Many things are better in The Guard.
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Originally Posted by TalkTurkey
Here's the most ironic part of regional v. mainline. Let's say you fly the 200. You have 5 flights today, and an average of 40 pax per flight. Let's see, that's 5x4 and add the zero (college degree stuff)--ok 200 passengers and 2 or 3/5 landings.

Mainline dude flies the 7ER one leg across the country with a load of 168 passengers and gets 0/1 or 1/1 landing.

Nope, I'll; go ahead and say it. Regional pilots PROBABLY have more experience than mainline pilots by way of takeoff/landing cycles, which btw raises our safety exponentially and measurably, and maybe-just-maybe some of us fly more passengers than our superiors, so-to-speak.
I used to be a lurker but registered just to say Bravo this is spot on.
I have a lot of friends that moved on to big brother and can attest to the above statement.
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