Any "Latest & Greatest" about Endeavor?
03-11-2017, 02:05 PM
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Nov 2012
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So? That ain't how they're gonna decide bases. Call your rep and let them know that's your price but it's a non starter.
Delta and endeavor doesn't need anything from us, the classes are full and senior guys arent attritting. They'll put bases where ever makes sense to them and you'll leave or stay and gripe. I submit gojets as evidence they dont care about their metrics.
Despite all that they are actively negotiating according to the fast read. If Delta needs Endeavor to park 200s after dec2018 then you won't get a retention extension.Get a deal done or leave for a company that has a large dtw base. You're capped out, and it looks like you're bases will be NY and maybe ATL when the 200s finally get parked.
Delta and endeavor doesn't need anything from us, the classes are full and senior guys arent attritting. They'll put bases where ever makes sense to them and you'll leave or stay and gripe. I submit gojets as evidence they dont care about their metrics.
Despite all that they are actively negotiating according to the fast read. If Delta needs Endeavor to park 200s after dec2018 then you won't get a retention extension.Get a deal done or leave for a company that has a large dtw base. You're capped out, and it looks like you're bases will be NY and maybe ATL when the 200s finally get parked.
03-11-2017, 02:13 PM
Line Holder
Joined APC: Oct 2016
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Agree to all of it! But at the end of the day, one must ask themselves...is the DGI worth coming to Endeavor? In my humble opinion if I was just starting out I would without a doubt head to Envoy. I write this because in six years I most likely will be flying at AA, plus I didn't go in debt 100k for a four year degree. Just think how many regional guys are in debt living with mom and pop hoping to land a legacy job. Something to seriously consider with retirements and AA's commitment to their regional feed.
I would be very curious to find out what the actual numbers are, of brand new pilots that never had a professional flying job are coming to EDV.
Back when I was in class, we had maybe a handful of pure CFI's. Maybe 3 out of 20 people in the class.. the majority of us were all previous 135 and 121 guys.
03-11-2017, 03:46 PM
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Agreed, I also believe that a very small amount of actual new pilots that are coming into the airline world from being CFI's are coming to EDV.
I would be very curious to find out what the actual numbers are, of brand new pilots that never had a professional flying job are coming to EDV.
Back when I was in class, we had maybe a handful of pure CFI's. Maybe 3 out of 20 people in the class.. the majority of us were all previous 135 and 121 guys.
I would be very curious to find out what the actual numbers are, of brand new pilots that never had a professional flying job are coming to EDV.
Back when I was in class, we had maybe a handful of pure CFI's. Maybe 3 out of 20 people in the class.. the majority of us were all previous 135 and 121 guys.
03-11-2017, 05:20 PM
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Joined APC: Aug 2013
Posts: 552
Agreed, I also believe that a very small amount of actual new pilots that are coming into the airline world from being CFI's are coming to EDV.
I would be very curious to find out what the actual numbers are, of brand new pilots that never had a professional flying job are coming to EDV.
Back when I was in class, we had maybe a handful of pure CFI's. Maybe 3 out of 20 people in the class.. the majority of us were all previous 135 and 121 guys.
I would be very curious to find out what the actual numbers are, of brand new pilots that never had a professional flying job are coming to EDV.
Back when I was in class, we had maybe a handful of pure CFI's. Maybe 3 out of 20 people in the class.. the majority of us were all previous 135 and 121 guys.
03-11-2017, 06:04 PM
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Joined APC: Feb 2016
Posts: 1,237
Agree to all of it! But at the end of the day, one must ask themselves...is the DGI worth coming to Endeavor? In my humble opinion if I was just starting out I would without a doubt head to Envoy. I write this because in six years I most likely will be flying at AA, plus I didn't go in debt 100k for a four year degree. Just think how many regional guys are in debt living with mom and pop hoping to land a legacy job. Something to seriously consider with retirements and AA's commitment to their regional feed.
03-11-2017, 07:04 PM
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Joined APC: Jul 2007
Position: In favor of good things, not in favor of bad things
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I'll put on the dunce cap if I deserve it; but here goes my dumb questions; Every month I bid almost exactly the same spot (captain LGA). Aren't we putting through enough captains and moving a few people off the top every month to boost relative seniority in NYC? I took a look at the other captain positions on both aircraft in NYC and it seems pretty stagnant on the captain side. Am I wrong?
http://tse3.mm.bing.net/th?id=OIP.cd...r=1.75&pid=1.7
http://tse3.mm.bing.net/th?id=OIP.cd...r=1.75&pid=1.7
03-11-2017, 07:27 PM
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I'll put on the dunce cap if I deserve it; but here goes my dumb questions; Every month I bid almost exactly the same spot (captain LGA). Aren't we putting through enough captains and moving a few people off the top every month to boost relative seniority in NYC? I took a look at the other captain positions on both aircraft in NYC and it seems pretty stagnant on the captain side. Am I wrong?
http://tse3.mm.bing.net/th?id=OIP.cd...r=1.75&pid=1.7
http://tse3.mm.bing.net/th?id=OIP.cd...r=1.75&pid=1.7
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