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Old 04-19-2014, 09:34 AM
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For the most part I think Delta hires very good guys/gals, but they also hire some of the worst pilots that couldn't get hired ANYWHERE else. For me there is one Captain that comes to mind, he was hired 4-5 years ago. I remember him telling me he had a Delta interview coming up, I had to hold back laughing from thinking to myself how bad he was going to fail the interview. He was the worst pilot I have ever flown, he was very unprofessional and incompetent on all levels. He had just been turned down by 2 other major airlines, but somehow he was magically hired by Delta.
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Old 04-19-2014, 11:53 AM
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AFAIK he is eligible to reapply in a year or whatever time frame it normally is.
I've talked to a couple other capts who know him, and their best guess is it was his quiet demeanor that put the HR people off. You know, those HR people who have no piloting skills whatsoever.
Another captain raised the quesion that mVanA came across as way too smart for the "Captain oriented culture at Delta".
With the secret squirrel ways the airlines have in regards to hiring selection, I'm sure that HE doesn't even know why he failed.
I'll say though that Delta is really losing out if they continually deny guys like him.
Also there is the possibility that Endeavor simply couldn't afford to lose hm.
If he was allowed to reapply then he failed one or more of the tests. Don't overcomplicate things.
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Old 04-19-2014, 12:20 PM
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Originally Posted by CAPTAINPCL
For the most part I think Delta hires very good guys/gals, but they also hire some of the worst pilots that couldn't get hired ANYWHERE else. For me there is one Captain that comes to mind, he was hired 4-5 years ago. I remember him telling me he had a Delta interview coming up, I had to hold back laughing from thinking to myself how bad he was going to fail the interview. He was the worst pilot I have ever flown, he was very unprofessional and incompetent on all levels. He had just been turned down by 2 other major airlines, but somehow he was magically hired by Delta.
That happens at other majors as well.. each have their loopholes. Guys that got turned down by DL and UA got hired by NW... guys that got turned down by NW and DL got on at UA, and so on. I've looked at the list very closely and none of my "holy crap this isn't working" have made it through. They may turn away a bit more than they should, but it's a conservative company. One of my favorite guys got turned down in 2010. There were only a couple 9E guys that were hired in the 2010 cycle, which is the only cycle since 2008... do you speak of the MEM guy that did some union work? I've never heard anything bad about him.
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Old 04-19-2014, 12:27 PM
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That happens at other majors as well.. each have their loopholes. Guys that got turned down by DL and UA got hired by NW... guys that got turned down by NW and DL got on at UA, and so on. I've looked at the list very closely and none of my "holy crap this isn't working" have made it through. They may turn away a bit more than they should, but it's a conservative company. One of my favorite guys got turned down in 2010. There were only a couple 9E guys that were hired in the 2010 cycle, which is the only cycle since 2008... do you speak of the MEM guy that did some union work? I've never heard anything bad about him.
I think he might have been 2008 hire, he was a MSP CA. I agree every airline has it's loopholes and some bad apples slip through the cracks, I was just shocked when this guy somehow pulled the wool over the panel.

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Old 04-19-2014, 12:37 PM
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I think he might have been 2008 hire, he was a MSP CA. I agree every airline has it's loopholes and some bad apples slip through the cracks, I was just shocked when this guy somehow pulled the wool over the panel.
Ah, I didn't know many MSP guys. Bunch of weirdos to begin with.
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Ah, I didn't know many MSP guys. Bunch of weirdos to begin with.
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One of the guys that got scooped up is the kind that will drag his paws on a mx issue to let an overnight time out so he could sleep home that night. Or sit back in the pax cabin in an out-station while dx and mx were trying desperately to get ahold of him in order to coordinate the fix on the APU with the mechanic. A really bitter dude who only cares about himself.

Then I see MvA get the finger and I just shake my head...

With that said, I do agree that all HR departments have a few slip through the cracks, and DL has done a decent job weeding out most of the losers, as stated above. It's just so hard to see so many good guys get rejected and some real tools get accepted...
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Old 04-20-2014, 02:33 PM
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Would a current Endeavor Pilot pls answer the following?

how long before a new hire could get msp base? those waiting to get back to msp, how long you been waiting?

thanks in advance
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Originally Posted by saker
Would a current Endeavor Pilot pls answer the following?

how long before a new hire could get msp base? those waiting to get back to msp, how long you been waiting?

thanks in advance
I wouldn't even want to tell you how long people have been waiting because past performance has nothing to do with the future.

But I will tell you that MSP is displacing people at the moment and nothing indicates that they will reverse that trend.

I see MSP being senior for a few years at a minimum.
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Old 04-20-2014, 03:36 PM
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Originally Posted by saker
Would a current Endeavor Pilot pls answer the following?

how long before a new hire could get msp base? those waiting to get back to msp, how long you been waiting?

thanks in advance
Maybe never, it is in Delta's best cost interest to put all of Endeavor in LGA/JFK/ATL. If DAL cancels our flight, DAL doesn't have to pay us like the other FFD carriers.
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