Endeavor (9E) interviews and offers?
12-31-2013, 05:15 AM
#71
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Endeavor will be a rapidly changing situation and the current downgrades will not last long anyone saying otherwise is fear-mongering. We are not losing many 200 in 2014 but we will be losing lots of pilots. This loss will finally more concentrated in the upper ranks. Even though the SSP is not working as well as some pilots though it should it's still a bit better than 40%. If that same group of pilots had applied and waited for an invitation to interview the selection rate would have probably been less than 1%. If you come to endeavor expect that no one including management has a clear view on the forecast. Anyone forecasting disaster has an axe to grind and they are using analysis that assumes the worst. My advise is go to the regional that gives you the first class date. The next 10 years are going to see movement everywhere so nowhere will be the same as it is today.
12-31-2013, 05:29 AM
#72
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Endeavor will be a rapidly changing situation and the current downgrades will not last long anyone saying otherwise is fear-mongering. We are not losing many 200 in 2014 but we will be losing lots of pilots. This loss will finally more concentrated in the upper ranks. Even though the SSP is not working as well as some pilots though it should it's still a bit better than 40%. If that same group of pilots had applied and waited for an invitation to interview the selection rate would have probably been less than 1%. If you come to endeavor expect that no one including management has a clear view on the forecast. Anyone forecasting disaster has an axe to grind and they are using analysis that assumes the worst. My advise is go to the regional that gives you the first class date. The next 10 years are going to see movement everywhere so nowhere will be the same as it is today.
Great response!
12-31-2013, 06:06 AM
#75
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Endeavor will be a rapidly changing situation and the current downgrades will not last long anyone saying otherwise is fear-mongering. We are not losing many 200 in 2014 but we will be losing lots of pilots. This loss will finally more concentrated in the upper ranks. Even though the SSP is not working as well as some pilots though it should it's still a bit better than 40%. If that same group of pilots had applied and waited for an invitation to interview the selection rate would have probably been less than 1%. If you come to endeavor expect that no one including management has a clear view on the forecast. Anyone forecasting disaster has an axe to grind and they are using analysis that assumes the worst. My advise is go to the regional that gives you the first class date. The next 10 years are going to see movement everywhere so nowhere will be the same as it is today.
I would recommend looking at regionals who AS OF NOW have plans to grow right away, 9E is a shrinking airline, whether some people like it or not, it's written on paper and officially announced by both delta's and 9e's management. Thinking this reduction will not happen is "crystal balling" as of now.
There's almost as much conjecture on Vilcas response as there is on those ill-charged angry responses from those who just want to spread baseless fear.
Go find yourself an airline that at least has a growing fleet plan.
12-31-2013, 06:45 AM
#76
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Endeavor will be a rapidly changing situation and the current downgrades will not last long anyone saying otherwise is fear-mongering. We are not losing many 200 in 2014 but we will be losing lots of pilots. This loss will finally more concentrated in the upper ranks. Even though the SSP is not working as well as some pilots though it should it's still a bit better than 40%. If that same group of pilots had applied and waited for an invitation to interview the selection rate would have probably been less than 1%. If you come to endeavor expect that no one including management has a clear view on the forecast. Anyone forecasting disaster has an axe to grind and they are using analysis that assumes the worst. My advise is go to the regional that gives you the first class date. The next 10 years are going to see movement everywhere so nowhere will be the same as it is today.
12-31-2013, 07:14 AM
#78
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There are a few spot on facts on this response. However, You are aware that 9E has announced a fleet reduction to 81 airplanes right? This will leave a surplus of several hundred pilots; let me guess, you're hoping majors hiring and FO attrition will cushion that, right? Big gamble right there by wanting to come to 9E as a fresh 2014 new hire with no seniority in that situation.
I would recommend looking at regionals who AS OF NOW have plans to grow right away, 9E is a shrinking airline, whether some people like it or not, it's written on paper and officially announced by both delta's and 9e's management. Thinking this reduction will not happen is "crystal balling" as of now.
There's almost as much conjecture on Vilcas response as there is on those ill-charged angry responses from those who just want to spread baseless fear.
Go find yourself an airline that at least has a growing fleet plan.
I would recommend looking at regionals who AS OF NOW have plans to grow right away, 9E is a shrinking airline, whether some people like it or not, it's written on paper and officially announced by both delta's and 9e's management. Thinking this reduction will not happen is "crystal balling" as of now.
There's almost as much conjecture on Vilcas response as there is on those ill-charged angry responses from those who just want to spread baseless fear.
Go find yourself an airline that at least has a growing fleet plan.
12-31-2013, 07:19 AM
#80
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It's my understanding that all major counterparts have announced a reduction of 50 seat jets. Some will be lucky to acquire some larger RJ'S at a ratio. Therefor, most regional airlines will be shrinking, with the exception of the ones that don't currently operate 50 seat jets. The entire regional landscape is changing dramatically. In my opinion, their biggest challenge will be staffing.
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