CAPTAINPCL

We will have 66 CRJ200s in Kingman by the end of the year, that is the fleet plan.

tom14cat14

That is what management is telling us. However it seems like it might be just trying to sell us a pipe dream to keep us form losing too many pilots. I am hearing some people coming out of recurrent that BW is telling them that they already told Delta we can only staff 80-90% of the flying for this summer. And they have no plan to restore any pay.

bonesbrigade

Geez with all the people claiming to be in the 15% you'd think that the TA would've failed 0 to 100%... Give it up, it's over, and the namecalling isn't gonna make the place any better. I fully agree with the rest of your post 100%, but calling people 85 percenters is really getting old. Might as well complain that there still isn't a 3rd man riding the jumpseat on all of our flights as per the 3-man cockpit.

bonesbrigade

That's what I've heard too, the bold part.I'm with the rest of you guys in that I want 100% of what was basically stolen from me restored before I start agreeing to things like co-dom in NYC. In lieu of pay, however, there is a multitude of things that DAL could do for the 9E guys that would make life significantly better.

Gearswinger

...never mind... Not worth it.

Flitestar

It may be old, but that doesn't mean it's not accurate. Yes voters are the ones that showed they tend to settle for scraps (like ship sets), succumb to scare tactics by management and then go around preaching the "well?? Do you rather be on the streets without a job??" song, as if they were totally convinced that this was going to happen.

Don't miss the point, it's those that didn't stand strong that has management convinced that 9E is a weak group, hence willing to bend over and take it, repeatedly.

So you go to management and ask for better pay in return for co-domicile and they say "it's not in our plans"?? Damn right it's not in their plans, cause they know we'll take it. Until we (including ALPA) start showing management that we're not doing jack squat anymore to show "good faith", they are going to keep riding us like a rented pony, just like they have done for so many years.

Don't give them an inch. Those times are over.

vilcas

Want to show management, quit or don't take the job. Don't stay in the job and whine that they don't pay you what you deserve. If you do accept a paycheck follow the SOP in the book don't try to underperform to punish management. Pilots are underpaid because in the past the barriers for entry were to low, maybe now that they have gone up a bit they will improve. If you want good pay make it near impossible to become a pilot and they will be forced to pay well. A degree and rigorous interview would exclude lots of pilots. The industry moved away from needing skilled pilots and equipped aircraft with better computers. Lots of pilots at the regional are lacking in basic airmanship skills, take away their FMS and ask them to make a crossing in an efficient manner and you get deer in the headlights. Same person wants better pay and they don't even have enough respect to stay proficient. Keep wearing north face jackets and looking sloppy ignore the books your too cool for all that but don't complain when they pay you accordingly.

BIGRIG

Right because every mainline guy who is paid 3-4 times more than a regional FO would have no problem at all. What fantasy land do you live in?

By the way, I voted yes if anybody is interested.

Gearswinger

So did I and statistically so did everyone else posting in here. The difference is that they are cowards who can't take responsibility and want to blame everyone else for their problems.

Saabs

They would have less problems as they didn't start out flying RJ 'S with glass cockpits and fms. So for the time being I'd say the majority of mainline pilots would have less of a problem doing that.