Banja

That may be how people feel, but I'm just passing information from Barry Wilbur himself so don't shoot the messenger. Plus, even if there is a tiny grain of truth in what he says, should we really be bashing guys for coming here? Truth is, since most of us are full of cynicism and skepticism as a result of the BK and the industry itself they will need to officially put a revised fleet plan on paper for anyone to feel differently. That is our only hope, so I suppose until they do that we are doomed.

AlaskaBound

With almost all regional airlines hiring I would be very careful as to which airline you pick. You have the upper hand and the ability to pick which one you want. Do some serious research about the one you are thinking of going to. As one who came from the Endeavor group, I left after 5 year sittings an FO, I would seriously take a good look at the entire picture and look at all of your options. No regional airline is stable nor can you say "job stability" and "regional airline" in the same sentence but some are better than others in terms of management, pilot moral, and the potential for movement...meaning you will not be stuck on ready reserve for 5 years with no chances of upgrading or even holding a line. Right now Endeavor is poised to shrink to below 100 airplanes. That means NO movement for you. There's a reason SO many of us 5-6 year FOs left that company in the past year. We are leaving in huge numbers. That's a red flag. And MOST of us are leaving to make a lateral move to another regional airline. Not many are getting picked up by majors. Some are.

pilotnbr1

So you are encouraging people to come to Endeavor so that you can be pushed up the list.... That is one of the most self serving horrible ideas I have heard on this forum.

Banja

No not at all, although I don't think people here realize that everyone here would benefit from new hires coming on property. If you were truly concerned for the individual pilots, you would never advise any of them to become a regional pilot in the first place. This industry is so volatile there is no such thing as the "right" regional to go fly for, so that's my advice to any aspiring regional pilot given the industry conditions as of late. I personally have learned that the hard way. From what I've learned from management (take it with a grain of salt, if you will) Delta would like to keep as much flying here that they can, which is all dependent on staffing. With movement finally starting (we ARE upgrading Captains again on 14-01 and 14-02) and if it continues, and IF we were to hire FO's to fill their place, Endeavor might not be the WORST regional to work for in the end, so why is that a horrible idea? The main point I have and the message we should be sending to management is to put a revised fleet plan on paper. If they want to keep 200's on property and get new hires to fly them, that is what it will take.

NoHandHold

What's going on with the new hire classes?

Are they being filled?

mooney

it depends on perspective. Are you a "class is 3/10ths full" or "7/10ths empty" kinda guy?

NoHandHold

LOLOLLOLOLL

Well played sir....well played.

My buddy just told me the most recent one after the 7/10ths empty had no one show up at all?!? Is this true?

Deice Press

January class (target size - 30 pilots)

-5 accepted offers
-4 showed up
-3 remain.

Could be a fluke but I'm excited to see these February numbers! You'd have to be insane to show up to an endeavor class.

AlaskaBound

I can see why Delta would like to keep a good amount of flying with Endeavor. It's cheap lift that they have 100% control over without having to weasel their way out of a contract. However, if Delta REALLY wanted to keep flying at Endeavor they would do something about it. They've done nothing. No signing bonuses, no incentive to join the ranks. Nothing from Delta saying they officially want to keep a good chunk of 200s at 9E. No positive talk about forward movement amongst the pilot group. Just a bunch of "well management is saying this and that but nothing is official" b.s.

Delta knows what's going on and they don't seem to care too much about the staffing issues going on. At least not yet.

k5beason

The email I received for the Feb 3rd Class has 5 total including myself. Of that I know one has already accepted a job elsewhere.

I have interview offers with American Eagle, Piedmont, and an interview with Express Jet.

Of those choices I think Express Jet on the CRJ would be my number 1. Endeavor #2. Eventually being based in DTW would make all the difference in the world not having to commute.

If endeavor could fill classes it could be a good choice but the first two classes only having a combined 8 people with the company wanting to hire 400 isn't a good start.

I sit at 1150tt with 28 multi and qualify for the r-atp. Skywest & Republic want to see 50 before they will hire you. Out of the American Eagle and Piedmont I don't think Endeavor is much worse and having a dtw base puts them ahead for me.

It does worry me about the class size, I suppose there will be plenty of work if they do need those 400. But could lead to being stuck on reserve forever.