swamp

Yes they do! So does ASA, XJET, SKW, RPH, AWA, CX, . They all suck

block30

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=1eXSIsNS4tw

legend

The 85% voted this way to keep the pay check coming, not at the unemployment line etc.

The 15% were willing to loose that income and the company get shutdown.

I respect both views. But to casting blame on the 85% for keeping the 15% employed, still getting paid, paying mortgage, car note, kids college, groceries, insurance. Insurance is a huge one!!

If you have no leverage then no one can hear you stomping your feet except your dog.

It is what it is in the big picture.

Here is a question. Would you go to the casino and bet every check you make ? Of course not, to high risk of loosing it all.

That's where the 85% stood.

Again not slamming the 15% but the 85% is not the problem. Pilot demand and leverage is. I feel that will be turning towards the Pilots advantage soon.

In the end take care of your family and your home.

Avroman

How so? That turd is locked in for 7 years. The only leverage is to do what the 15% suggested, shut the biotch down and go somewhere else.

legend

Your thinking at the regional level. Every major will be hiring soon, most regionals will be absorbed by their major in the next 3-4yrs. The regional won't be able to retain or hire enough pilots. We gain leverage at the table when this happens. Of course the leverage will be at the majors. just my opinion. I prefer to keep my job. There would be no leverage when someone else would do our flying. They already had ours covered.

Fr8tdog

The Hell if they did! there are aircraft still parked because they dont have adequate staffing to fly them... Delta did not have anyone waiting in the wings to take our flying period. Not one other carrier had staffing to accommodate the additional flying that would have been on the block.
The Ol' comair story is and was not applicable, it took delta a decade to wind them down and in the end they had 30 airframes.

I can give a crap if one pilot voted one way then the other, thats the democracy of the vote.
What ticks me off is when a pilot says they voted yes and continues to p*** and moan about it... go F### yourselves you made the bed so sleep in it!

legend

They had enough covered to shut us down in 12 months. What parked airplanes are you speaking of at Endeavor. We haven't parked any due to staffing. We have parked about 2-4 200's but that's due to the wind down of the 200's. We're weren't short during our negotiations. Now is a different story.

jamesd

Sometimes in poker you have to call their bluff. I voted to see their hand

FlyJSH

For those that care, I got my answer (thank you to those that provided it).

You are now free to go on debating how bad we all are (Please call me a bottom feeder, the bottom in me wants be be whipped).

Slats

How do you know? You don't work st AWA, XJET or SKW...
I'd rather be stuck at one of these 3 than Endeavor Air