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03-02-2015, 01:54 PM
#391
Da Hudge
Joined APC: Oct 2006
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I got the numbers from the annual report. If those airplanes go to mainline, then the profits would be reduced significantly as every 76 seat jet pilot would have their pay double at the least, not to mention DAL would have to cut an additional 4000+ profit sharing checks.
DL systemwide is growing around 3% this year. 717 and up is growing 10%.
03-02-2015, 02:42 PM
#392
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Yeah, ~4% of the operating cost at mainline, but at DCI, that percentage is much higher due to the small plane size. DCI pilots are paid more per seat mile than mainline. The DAPLA PWA rates would cut a significant amount of DCI profit, probably 50%.
Delta has replaced its SVP of DCI, my guess is change is coming.
Delta has replaced its SVP of DCI, my guess is change is coming.
03-02-2015, 04:19 PM
#393
Line Holder
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03-02-2015, 09:05 PM
#395
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Aug 2012
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Wrong! Labor cost is 2nd only to fuel cost. Why does Delta outsource flying if labor cost doesn't matter? As regional pilot pay increases to the point that it no longer makes sense to outsource get ready to have "Barbie Jets" on property.
03-02-2015, 11:23 PM
#396
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I was just wondering how long are guys sitting on reserve? I should be ready to apply or at minimums by spring or early summer. The retention bonus sounds appealing, but I worked for 9E on the ramp before and during the bankruptcy, and before we went to DGS so I remember the short checks and all that fun stuff, but I'm pretty sure all that has changed.
03-03-2015, 03:56 AM
#397
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I was just wondering how long are guys sitting on reserve? I should be ready to apply or at minimums by spring or early summer. The retention bonus sounds appealing, but I worked for 9E on the ramp before and during the bankruptcy, and before we went to DGS so I remember the short checks and all that fun stuff, but I'm pretty sure all that has changed.
03-03-2015, 06:45 AM
#398
Meat Popcicle
Joined APC: Dec 2010
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Well, 17 lines of flying equates, in management's eyes, to utilizing 17 aircraft. Lets just say we have plenty of 200 spares on top of the 17 we will need to do the flying in August.
That 17 number is supposed to happen by August and the plan is to add lines of flying (i.e. aircraft) steadily after that as the new hires come online and the training pipeline unclogs. Keep in mind all of these plans are subject to change without notice as there are increases or decreases in attrition and hiring.
If attrition stays as planned and we are able to continue the current hiring trend then things get better faster, but in general I see things getting better. Maybe just not as fast as I would like.
That 17 number is supposed to happen by August and the plan is to add lines of flying (i.e. aircraft) steadily after that as the new hires come online and the training pipeline unclogs. Keep in mind all of these plans are subject to change without notice as there are increases or decreases in attrition and hiring.
If attrition stays as planned and we are able to continue the current hiring trend then things get better faster, but in general I see things getting better. Maybe just not as fast as I would like.
03-03-2015, 08:06 AM
#399
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It's way more complicated than that, mainline is basically a break even operation, the profits all come from DCI, code share, and the other businesses. Management has to make it work. So, management has to find a way to make both the regional, and mainline pilot groups happy.
03-03-2015, 09:39 AM
#400
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Sure they do
It's way more complicated than that, mainline is basically a break even operation, the profits all come from DCI, code share, and the other businesses. Management has to make it work. So, management has to find a way to make both the regional, and mainline pilot groups happy.
