Endeavor Air
02-22-2015, 04:37 AM
#331
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Don't even get me started. Comair participated in the whipsaw just like everyone else. They raised the bar, then realized everyone else was lowering the bar so they joined in to try and keep their jobs just like everyone else. The Chautauqua pilots were extremely close to going on strike, then settled for an ok 4 year deal at the time with excellent scope. Who knew 12 years later they would still be working under the same deal?
02-22-2015, 05:12 AM
#332
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Don't even get me started. Comair participated in the whipsaw just like everyone else. They raised the bar, then realized everyone else was lowering the bar so they joined in to try and keep their jobs just like everyone else. The Chautauqua pilots were extremely close to going on strike, then settled for an ok 4 year deal at the time with excellent scope. Who knew 12 years later they would still be working under the same deal?
02-22-2015, 05:23 AM
#333
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If you believe in the free market work for the company that pays you what your worth. Don't get the job and then complain or give it less than 100%. You get hired to do a job and as long as your being paid the agreed upon wage you should work hard. When it comes time to negotiate the wage do so the best way you can but don't lose sight of your circumstance. If you had a job with a greater barrier for entry you would make more. Management did their part by getting good aircraft that would mask poor piloting skills so they could hire from a wider pool and still get them through training.
02-22-2015, 08:21 AM
#334
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If you believe in the free market work for the company that pays you what your worth. Don't get the job and then complain or give it less than 100%. You get hired to do a job and as long as your being paid the agreed upon wage you should work hard. When it comes time to negotiate the wage do so the best way you can but don't lose sight of your circumstance. If you had a job with a greater barrier for entry you would make more. Management did their part by getting good aircraft that would mask poor piloting skills so they could hire from a wider pool and still get them through training.
02-22-2015, 09:01 AM
#335
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The problem as I see it starts with the railway labor act. It's absolute horse poo poo that these companies can literally drag out negotiations as long as they do. The labor group has no leverage. Everything favors the airline and they take full advantage of us
02-22-2015, 10:43 AM
#336
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How are FOs not ready? That's like being given a silver platter and getting to cut in front of the buffet line only to say oh I didn't know I was suppose to show up here hungry. You know you're at a buffet so your chance will come. Why not be as hungry as you can regardless of where you are in line?
02-22-2015, 04:07 PM
#337
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Still, it's not like Endeavor just started to go bad for FOs. As long as one meets Delta mins and has apps out they should be ready for an interview. When it happens it happens in a heartbeat. It shows either laziness or apathy if you aren't ready. Unless one is a lifer planning on a retirement, being ready to get out should be an obvious given. Turning down interview dates just misses out on potential seniority and a chance in the current hiring cycle.
02-23-2015, 02:03 PM
#338
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Still, it's not like Endeavor just started to go bad for FOs. As long as one meets Delta mins and has apps out they should be ready for an interview. When it happens it happens in a heartbeat. It shows either laziness or apathy if you aren't ready. Unless one is a lifer planning on a retirement, being ready to get out should be an obvious given. Turning down interview dates just misses out on potential seniority and a chance in the current hiring cycle.
02-23-2015, 06:18 PM
#339
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Well I would suggest to those that don't want Delta, interview anyway. In a couple years if you haven't made it to where you really want then you can go to Delta. This will likely be a better long term situation than Endeavor or any other regional. In the next 5 years the regional sector of the airline industry will find itself in an unsustainable situation unless the government intervenes and gets more realistic with the requirements for becoming a regional first officer.
02-23-2015, 06:42 PM
#340
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Well I would suggest to those that don't want Delta, interview anyway. In a couple years if you haven't made it to where you really want then you can go to Delta. This will likely be a better long term situation than Endeavor or any other regional. In the next 5 years the regional sector of the airline industry will find itself in an unsustainable situation unless the government intervenes and gets more realistic with the requirements for becoming a regional first officer.
