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Old 08-01-2013, 10:17 AM
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Originally Posted by AlaskaBound
Age? Check ride failures? Medical wavers? What??

How about how much sleep he got last night...if he felt good enough to fly that day. How about if he got enough to eat that day. Wasn't so rushed that he didn't get a meal break. How about asking if he isn't over stressed from things going on at home... that his mind is in the game.
Absolutely correct. I was thinking of Legacy Captains and should have created a realistic list for Regional pilots who work second jobs and struggle to make ends meet. My apologies for the oversight.
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Old 08-01-2013, 10:21 AM
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Originally Posted by madeinUSA
I spoke with a pilot who was part of the hiring process at Delta during the last round of hiring. He worked closely with HR. I asked what Delta was looking for. He told me that they didn't want pilots with more than 6,000 hours because it showed a lack of ambition for career progression to the majors. Take it for what it's worth but if you think that management has the same "seniority rules" mentality that unions have then you are mistaken. And as far as getting a "worthless piece of paper" and then getting hired I will gladly be part of your interview group. I agree about your statement of not needing it but that's not how the world works. If you want to move up you have to play the game on their terms. It's not your company.
That is simply not true. I shared a table in the Delta cafeteria recently with a gal who is involved with pilot hiring. Too old and too much flight time have very little revelance. They are fully aware of the industry stagnation that has occured over the past 12 years.
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Old 08-01-2013, 10:30 AM
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Why would anyone want to skip college? You are surrounded by hot 18-22 y/o girls who have a propensity to binge drink. Best 7 years of my life !!

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Yeah, but if one puts a foreign object in said inebriated coed's mouth, she is likely to blow chunks rather than the intended object.
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Old 08-01-2013, 10:42 AM
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Re passenger perceptions: I have had many ask how long I have been flying (years), some ask how many hours, but never once have I been asked about my degree.

And for all you youngsters who have been asked if you were old enough to be flying, what they are really saying is, ” I really wish you were middle aged!”
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Old 08-01-2013, 10:52 AM
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Originally Posted by jsled
Why would anyone want to skip college? You are surrounded by hot 18-22 y/o girls who have a propensity to binge drink. Best 7 years of my life !!

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Except this is aviation, and probably 1/4 of the guys on here went to Riddle. Less sausage at Oscar meyer university.
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Old 08-01-2013, 11:17 AM
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Originally Posted by Bartok
Yes, its a lack of ambition.

Those pilots could have created their own major airline thereby creating spots for them to be hired into.

Lack of ambition.
Ha, you're right. That's Richard Branson, but he can't get hired at Delta because he doesn't have a college degree!

Can't win!
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Old 08-01-2013, 11:38 AM
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Originally Posted by Ftrooppilot

Granted Regular commission - 7 yr point
Select for high altitude recon program - 8 yr point.
Promoted to Major - 9 yr point
Selected for Air Command and Staff College - 9 yr point
NO COLLEGE DEGREE (Commissioned through Aviation Cadet Program)
when was that, the 80s?
Times have changed.
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Old 08-01-2013, 12:29 PM
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I'm not saying it is necessary to have a college degree to be a pilot. I am trying to explain a possible rationale of why having one would be required and some of the benefits to continuing education. If the company you want to work for requires that you have a college degree, then you have to have a college degree. You can whine and moan as much as you want that it's not fair but that's reality.

And a college degree is now REQUIRED to be a commissioned officer in the Air Force and a Master's degree is now virtually required to make Major. In fact, most NCOs have to have completed some level of post-secondary education to progress up to Senior NCO. It isn't necessary to do your job, but it is a discriminating factor when looking at applicants. There will never be a pilot shortage at the major level and there is no incentive to change the requirement.
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Old 08-01-2013, 12:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Purple Drank
when was that, the 80s?
Times have changed.
60s. You're right times have changed. It used to be "performance" was the criteria. Now it's "filling squares" on the computer.
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Old 08-01-2013, 01:10 PM
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Do you have to have a college degree to work at Taco Bell? Seems like most of the people working there are college grads. Now I'm confused.

Must be my lack of education.
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