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08-01-2013, 09:01 AM
#251
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Joined APC: Aug 2012
Posts: 174
The general public has no idea of the crews education level. if I could ask pilot qualifications for my next airline flight, the questions would be.
1. age
2. total flight time
3. flight time in acft being flown
4. accident history
4. Medical waivers
5. currency (last 30 days)
6. check ride failures
1. age
2. total flight time
3. flight time in acft being flown
4. accident history
4. Medical waivers
5. currency (last 30 days)
6. check ride failures
08-01-2013, 09:07 AM
#252
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Joined APC: Aug 2012
Posts: 294
I spoke with a pilot who was part of the hiring process at Delta during the last round of hiring. He worked closely with HR. I asked what Delta was looking for. He told me that they didn't want pilots with more than 6,000 hours because it showed a lack of ambition for career progression to the majors. Take it for what it's worth but if you think that management has the same "seniority rules" mentality that unions have then you are mistaken. And as far as getting a "worthless piece of paper" and then getting hired I will gladly be part of your interview group. I agree about your statement of not needing it but that's not how the world works. If you want to move up you have to play the game on their terms. It's not your company.
08-01-2013, 09:14 AM
#253
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Joined APC: Nov 2012
Posts: 611
[QUOTE He told me that they didn't want pilots with more than 6,000 hours because it showed a lack of ambition for career progression to the majors.[/QUOTE]
So the guys stuck in the post 9/11 hiring freeze have no career progression?
So the guys stuck in the post 9/11 hiring freeze have no career progression?
08-01-2013, 09:24 AM
#254
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Joined APC: Sep 2010
Position: Up Front
Posts: 1,628
Those pilots could have created their own major airline thereby creating spots for them to be hired into.
Lack of ambition.
08-01-2013, 09:43 AM
#256
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Joined APC: Jan 2008
Position: CL-65 captain
Posts: 2,244
you should have thought about the potential for the world's most crippling terrorist event before you became a pilot
08-01-2013, 10:06 AM
#259
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Joined APC: Jun 2008
Posts: 426
Define education. Someone who's a check airman with thousands of hours PIC, international experience and speaks 2 languages fluently, or someone who dicked around at college for 4 years learning about the history of Africa? I know which one I would rather have representing the company in the left seat of my big Airbus.
The whole college degree argument gets my blood boiling. Yes it should be advantageous to have on a resume, but no way should it be a deal breaker.
Just ask Richard Branson or Bill Gates if their lack of education held them back in life.
The whole college degree argument gets my blood boiling. Yes it should be advantageous to have on a resume, but no way should it be a deal breaker.
Just ask Richard Branson or Bill Gates if their lack of education held them back in life.
We aren't Richard Branson or Bill Gates. If you have the drive and self-motivation of self-made industry leaders and billionaires you wouldn't continue filling out airline applications.
08-01-2013, 10:10 AM
#260
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Joined APC: Nov 2006
Position: Body at sea level; heart at 70,000+
Posts: 1,349
And Ftroop if I understand correctly you were in the AF so you of all people should appreciate the importance of a degree.[/QUOTE]
Granted Regular commission - 7 yr point
Select for high altitude recon program - 8 yr point.
Promoted to Major - 9 yr point
Selected for Air Command and Staff College - 9 yr point
NO COLLEGE DEGREE (Commissioned through Aviation Cadet Program)
Granted Regular commission - 7 yr point
Select for high altitude recon program - 8 yr point.
Promoted to Major - 9 yr point
Selected for Air Command and Staff College - 9 yr point
NO COLLEGE DEGREE (Commissioned through Aviation Cadet Program)
