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Old 06-06-2013, 06:59 PM
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Even worse is when its the cheap CA who takes his bags, doesn't acknowledge the driver, and walks off.

The people that don't tip are the first ones to complain that the hotel treats crews poorly compared to the regular customers. That's not karma, it's cause and effect.
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I will gladly take my own bag and save the dollar
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These are the same people who stiff the pizza delivery guy, valet, barber. Again, you cant fix cheap and classless.
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So can anyone tell me who should get tipped and why? Also, why don't us FO's fall into that category? Serious question. Also, why do waiters & bartenders in Europe don't get tipped but here it's the standard to tip. How did it all start?

It's easy to call us cheap and classless but without premise. Also just because we disagree with the tipping system that businesses have developed to have customers pay part of their employees salaries does not mean we don't tip. Just means we don't agree with it.

Public forum so anyone can say any stupid thing they want. If you think tipping a van driver gives you class then you don't know what class is.
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Originally Posted by NoLightOff
So can anyone tell me who should get tipped and why? Also, why don't us FO's fall into that category? Serious question. Also, why do waiters & bartenders in Europe don't get tipped but here it's the standard to tip. How did it all start?

It's easy to call us cheap and classless but without premise. Also just because we disagree with the tipping system that businesses have developed to have customers pay part of their employees salaries does not mean we don't tip. Just means we don't agree with it.

Public forum so anyone can say any stupid thing they want. If you think tipping a van driver gives you class then you don't know what class is.
I never said tipping the van driver gives you class. Tipping the driver does not make you a class act. On the other hand, stiffing the van driver makes you a classless cheap azzz. Keep trying to justify it.
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Old 06-06-2013, 08:03 PM
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I never said tipping the van driver gives you class. Tipping the driver does not make you a class act. On the other hand, stiffing the van driver makes you a classless cheap azzz. Keep trying to justify it.
Keep trying to avoid justifying your reasoning. You tip because it's become the standard and don't know why.
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Old 06-06-2013, 08:08 PM
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Some people think a certain way just cuz. They have aggressive responses to anyone who questions them too hard and they feel justified in their indignation. If you think tipping is important then do it. Don't however malign someone who doesn't share your viewpoint. I realize its human nature to attack differences but as society and people evolve we have to be more open minded.
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Old 06-06-2013, 08:08 PM
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Originally Posted by NoLightOff
Keep trying to avoid justifying your reasoning. You tip because it's become the standard and don't know why.
Is it an extension of what hotel bell hops expect? They sling your bags, you tip them.
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Keep trying to avoid justifying your reasoning. You tip because it's become the standard and don't know why.
If a van driver is eating his lunch and finds out he's supposed to pick up a crew from some regional airline that never tips, he's going to finish his sandwich and pick them up when he gets around to it. If that same regional airline's crewmembers normally tip, the prospect of earning $3-5 is going to make him leave right away. Hell, if it's a small town he might even track you on flightaware and be waiting for you.

Now, before you start typing, I know you're going to say "well it's his job to pick me up on time, why the hell should I have to tip him to do his job?"

After you make this argument, I will respond by stating that the world runs on dollar bills and not idealism, and then Delta1097 will, for the third time this evening, correctly label you as classless.
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Old 06-06-2013, 08:15 PM
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Most pilots I have met don't have much class and tipping a van driver won't help.
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