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02-10-2020, 04:19 PM
#461
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The 73W (The widget-configured 737-700) has more than enough performance to do ASE. In fact, it regularly flies out bags the CRJ-700s leave behind in EYW. It's an airfield wingspan limitation that keeps it out of ASE. It has been a regular in CRW in the past, so that is no issue either. There are only 10, so they're a bit of a unicorn.
02-10-2020, 06:24 PM
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I'll defer to your knowledge of the 737 then, but for most airplanes, it's the inability to fly the missed approach single engine (one engine inop) over the inability to depart and fail one at V1. Most planes simply can't make the turn out while climbing out down an engine. On take off, that tight turn isn't needed although the 146 could do it and thus could land and depart both 15 and 33 unlike other jets. We also had an unpublished LOC approach shared with Air Wisconsin that had lower mins because we were the only ones that could meet the required missed approach climb gradient with one engine failed.
02-10-2020, 06:40 PM
#463
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I'll defer to your knowledge of the 737 then, but for most airplanes, it's the inability to fly the missed approach single engine (one engine inop) over the inability to depart and fail one at V1. Most planes simply can't make the turn out while climbing out down an engine. On take off, that tight turn isn't needed although the 146 could do it and thus could land and depart both 15 and 33 unlike other jets. We also had an unpublished LOC approach shared with Air Wisconsin that had lower mins because we were the only ones that could meet the required missed approach climb gradient with one engine failed.
02-10-2020, 07:11 PM
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The 73W (The widget-configured 737-700) has more than enough performance to do ASE. In fact, it regularly flies out bags the CRJ-700s leave behind in EYW. It's an airfield wingspan limitation that keeps it out of ASE. It has been a regular in CRW in the past, so that is no issue either. There are only 10, so they're a bit of a unicorn.
02-11-2020, 01:07 AM
#466
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I'll defer to your knowledge of the 737 then, but for most airplanes, it's the inability to fly the missed approach single engine (one engine inop) over the inability to depart and fail one at V1. Most planes simply can't make the turn out while climbing out down an engine. On take off, that tight turn isn't needed although the 146 could do it and thus could land and depart both 15 and 33 unlike other jets. We also had an unpublished LOC approach shared with Air Wisconsin that had lower mins because we were the only ones that could meet the required missed approach climb gradient with one engine failed.
Netjets now has an RNP that gets them super low, but I haven’t seen the approach itself, but the climb gradients must be pretty good.
02-11-2020, 09:38 AM
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SkyWest also flies the LOC-DME. On the Avro, did you guys have a balked/extraction procedure? The Avro and Q400 seemed like ideal planes for flying into ASE but I never flew them. Could the Avro also circle to land on 33? We didn’t do it on the 700. One guy told me he tried it in the sim and the EGPWS was just giving alerts the whole time. The single engine balked in the CRJ700 was probably the most intense on terrain clearance.
Netjets now has an RNP that gets them super low, but I haven’t seen the approach itself, but the climb gradients must be pretty good.
Netjets now has an RNP that gets them super low, but I haven’t seen the approach itself, but the climb gradients must be pretty good.
02-11-2020, 08:48 PM
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02-12-2020, 02:23 AM
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Have dx run a couple solutions off CRW for different runways. I couldnt make it work without serious weight penalties on the classic, but im sure once you remind the computer this airplane flies into bigger and better airports itll really push those numbers harder. Next gens are great but they dont launch vertical.
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