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Old 11-25-2016, 09:32 AM
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Originally Posted by Moondog
as far as negotiating skills, my ex-wife wrote me big check when we divorced. How's that sound!!!!!!
You'd get 100% of the vote.
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Old 11-25-2016, 09:33 AM
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This TA will pass. Hugely. No one who supported the DIRTY DOZEN deserves any part of the future administration.
LOLwut?

The "dirty dozen" got us a MUCH better deal than the garbage that was floating to the top before they put their collective foot on the throat of it.
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Old 11-25-2016, 10:21 AM
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Not sure what about the "dirty dozen" disqualifies them, but for me anyone that voted for, or was a part of the administration that pushed TA1, should never ever be allowed to do DALPA work again.
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Old 11-25-2016, 10:24 AM
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Originally Posted by rube
No one who supported the DIRTY DOZEN deserves any part of the future administration.
Back to partisanship, I see. Did the crow not fill you up enough?
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My opinion, and we all have them, is that John Malone has done a great job for the Delta pilots and should be re-elected, the same for Getty. Either Mason or Hay would be fine, they both did good work, but I'd give a nod to Mason, he is more of a consensus builder and Hay is already serving well on the NC. For Secretary, Bryde would be a good pick, he's served the pilots well and is very apolitical. Despite all the hate thrown his way, I think Nestor would probably also do a good job in this administrative post. He is very hard working and does "deep dive" (he's a wonk) into policy and process. Fire away.
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Old 11-25-2016, 04:09 PM
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Originally Posted by rube
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This TA will pass. Hugely. No one who supported the DIRTY DOZEN deserves any part of the future administration.

Hugely is so 2015 - The in crowd would now say "This TA will pass. Bigly."

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Hugely is so 2015 - The in crowd would now say "This TA will pass. Bigly."

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And in 2017, the adverb of the year will be Fatly.
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And in 2017, the adverb of the year will be Fatly.
I think fatly is spelled with a "ph" though, like, "dat's phat".
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Old 11-26-2016, 05:58 AM
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Back to partisanship, I see. Did the crow not fill you up enough?
I have a remarkably fast metabolism, as you will see.

The dirty dozen doesn't get any credit for this TA. They ordered the admin to engage in regressive bargaining on August 26, just days before a four-day "super mediation" session in Baltimore. Malone came out of that session with NOTHING. The NMB told us we could either come to the table ready to deal, or we could continue towing banners over empty baseball parks. The finite limits of the great orange circle jerk had been reached.

I believe you will recall that we sat on the bench for about three weeks? What happened at the September MEC meeting?

The membership went ape is what happened. Bartels and his cronies (including Tom Bell) were about to drive us off a cliff, and a lot of pilots contacted their reps and told them to send the negotiators back with rational marching orders. Everyone knew that a deal was possible, and the dozen knew they were ignoring their own polling data.

This TA was reached DESPITE the MEC, not because of it.
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Originally Posted by rube
I have a remarkably fast metabolism, as you will see.

The dirty dozen doesn't get any credit for this TA. They ordered the admin to engage in regressive bargaining on August 26, just days before a four-day "super mediation" session in Baltimore. Malone came out of that session with NOTHING. The NMB told us we could either come to the table ready to deal, or we could continue towing banners over empty baseball parks. The finite limits of the great orange circle jerk had been reached.

I believe you will recall that we sat on the bench for about three weeks? What happened at the September MEC meeting?

The membership went ape is what happened. Bartels and his cronies (including Tom Bell) were about to drive us off a cliff, and a lot of pilots contacted their reps and told them to send the negotiators back with rational marching orders. Everyone knew that a deal was possible, and the dozen knew they were ignoring their own polling data.

This TA was reached DESPITE the MEC, not because of it.
And now the play by play for TA1...

I'll some it up.
YES!, bobble head convention.
If we get this done soon we can hit the hospitality suite with ED!

30 days later...

SMACKDOWN.

The prior was a much more egregious error. Sometimes not rushing IS the right thing to do.
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