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11-20-2016, 05:08 AM
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I'm not disagreeing that if all those things come to pass then it will work out like that. I'm merely saying that all that may or may not happen, and the fact that the company flat out refuses to even lock in a fraction of our gains, let alone fully "hub status" protect SEA, is very suspicious since said refusal is coming right on the precipice of the alleged done deal merger.
Also, if (big if) As is forced to cx the DL code share, what about their other code shares?
Also, if (big if) As is forced to cx the DL code share, what about their other code shares?
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11-20-2016, 05:46 AM
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Frankly, I don't know why the Company is so adamant about not modifying the AK code share agreement. I'm thinking it may be a moot point within the next year. If canceling the DL/AK code share becomes a requirement, my money's says AK will do it in a heartbeat and DL management then has absolutely nothing to say about it.
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11-20-2016, 08:42 AM
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My one question would be how the DOT requiring ending the AK codeshare could impact Horizon and how our contract ties into using Horizon. Would Horizons new jets be available to Delta? I don't know the overall international feed numbers from AK. Many times a international route hinges on the ability to put the last 12 passengers onboard. Management may be concerned that if they lose that feed they lose some international routes. I suspect we do not have the gates to replace the feed at the present time. Perhaps they are preserving that section to allow the use of Horizon. I have however not read that section of our contract so have no idea on legalities.
11-20-2016, 08:42 AM
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Or...
Alaska keeps the Virgin America brand and has a seemless Virgin (to Virgin) ticket for Europeans to buy. Get to any where in the U.S. via Virgin (Delta's other brand.) Then the code share is expanded with the DL code being the catalyst. No Delta ops needed.
Alaska keeps the Virgin America brand and has a seemless Virgin (to Virgin) ticket for Europeans to buy. Get to any where in the U.S. via Virgin (Delta's other brand.) Then the code share is expanded with the DL code being the catalyst. No Delta ops needed.
11-20-2016, 08:50 AM
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We ask for this, they say nah bruh don't worry its all good, its about to end soon anyway done deal don't worry bruh. A year or two down the road here we are again saying "well we didn't think they'd do that".
RB has one of the biggest egos of anyone who has ever walked the earth. VX was his emotionally driven, model tank on the map of the world, manifest destiny pet project. IMO he very much still wants his little brands to align. This may not be the"done deal" many are claiming.
11-20-2016, 08:51 AM
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Is not the DOT approving the purchase? I don't think it matters if they merge the operations or not.
11-20-2016, 08:52 AM
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While that could have been typed a lot clearer than it was, this is one of the things I'm concerned with.
We ask for this, they say nah bruh don't worry its all good, its about to end soon anyway done deal don't worry bruh. A year or two down the road here we are again saying "well we didn't think they'd do that".
RB has one of the biggest egos of anyone who has ever walked the earth. VX was his emotionally driven, model tank on the map of the world, manifest destiny pet project. IMO he very much still wants his little brands to align. This may not be the"done deal" many are claiming.
We ask for this, they say nah bruh don't worry its all good, its about to end soon anyway done deal don't worry bruh. A year or two down the road here we are again saying "well we didn't think they'd do that".
RB has one of the biggest egos of anyone who has ever walked the earth. VX was his emotionally driven, model tank on the map of the world, manifest destiny pet project. IMO he very much still wants his little brands to align. This may not be the"done deal" many are claiming.
11-20-2016, 08:55 AM
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By naming SEA a hub, but keeping the AS code share abuse potential basically unlimited, it allows RB's "partner" DL to continue to feed his little pet project airline VX.
This is the only reason I can see for the company being adamant about maintaining full and complete AS code share abuse potential, despite the zeitgeist that the demise of the whole thing is a done deal.
This is the only reason I can see for the company being adamant about maintaining full and complete AS code share abuse potential, despite the zeitgeist that the demise of the whole thing is a done deal.
11-20-2016, 09:03 AM
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Alaska scope is exclusive not inclusive Alaska would benefit from operating both of their brands in a joint network. This opens the potential to use several codes on a single flight. Virgin Atlantic, Delta, Virgin America, and Alaska. With Alaska's other codes sharing, it could be a Virgin Atlantic to American airlines ticket. Sold by Delta, operated by Virgin Atlantic, Alaska, and American.
I hope people realize the value of their profit sharing and stick with it instead of trying to protect it by incorporating it into pay rates.
11-20-2016, 09:07 AM
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Revised with a full sized key board...
Alaska scope is exclusive not inclusive Alaska would benefit from operating both of their brands in a joint network. This opens the potential to use several codes on a single flight. Virgin Atlantic, Delta, Virgin America, and Alaska. With Alaska's other codes sharing, it could be a Virgin Atlantic to American airlines ticket. Sold by Delta, operated by Virgin Atlantic, Alaska, and American.
I hope people realize the value of their profit sharing and stick with it instead of trying to protect it by incorporating it into pay rates.
Alaska scope is exclusive not inclusive Alaska would benefit from operating both of their brands in a joint network. This opens the potential to use several codes on a single flight. Virgin Atlantic, Delta, Virgin America, and Alaska. With Alaska's other codes sharing, it could be a Virgin Atlantic to American airlines ticket. Sold by Delta, operated by Virgin Atlantic, Alaska, and American.
I hope people realize the value of their profit sharing and stick with it instead of trying to protect it by incorporating it into pay rates.
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