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11-15-2016, 08:22 AM

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OldFlyGuy

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Originally Posted by 404yxl

I thought a no vote would mean no raise for a long time. I'm confused

Anyone have the list of concessions they get with this 6% raise?

An important piece of information is the other employees don't have a contract. The company can impose work rule changes at will. Good or bad. OFG

11-15-2016, 08:28 AM

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Originally Posted by 404yxl

I thought a no vote would mean no raise for a long time. I'm confused

Anyone have the list of concessions they get with this 6% raise?

I'm sure your DPA buddies do. Go ask them over on chitchat.

11-15-2016, 08:29 AM

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Originally Posted by 404yxl

What value does a MCO pilot place on losing perdiem to do daytrips out of MCO via a NYC trip? You can't place one so easily

Let's see, drive to work, or commute up on a jumpseat to sit in a middle seat in the back of a MadDog to deadhead back home.

Tough choice.

Oh, and get 21% more than I make now to do it.

I can live with the loss. QOL and all that ya know.

11-15-2016, 08:33 AM

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Originally Posted by GogglesPisano

$3.31B in gains

($0.14B) in gives

$3.17B Net gain

Um. Yeah, I can live with that.

That 3.3B includes "projected" profit sharing

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11-15-2016, 08:34 AM

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Originally Posted by JamesBond

Let's see, drive to work, or commute up on a jumpseat to sit in a middle seat in the back of a MadDog to deadhead back home.

Tough choice.

They would just stay home on the deviated deadhead and earn extra pay that a virtual base would eliminate. They would actually work more with a virtual base.

I know you know that. Keep trolling.

11-15-2016, 08:37 AM

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Originally Posted by 404yxl

They would just stay home on the deviated deadhead and earn extra pay that a virtual base would eliminate. They would actually work more with a virtual base.

I know you know that. Keep trolling.

I'M trolling?

I'll still take the 21% pay increase over 6% anyday.

11-15-2016, 09:06 AM

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Originally Posted by JamesBond

Or...

We pull down the VB's entirely and keep all the gains. #winning

11-15-2016, 09:11 AM

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Or...

We pull down the VB's entirely and keep all the gains. #winning

I'm still willing to wait and see. #patient

11-15-2016, 09:25 AM

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I'm still willing to wait and see. #patient

I'm not. There is literally nothing that can come from this that won't reduce jobs and dilute flying in real bases. They wanted to "stand up" a 330 base but version 1.0 didn't include that (version 2.0 absolutely will). Chess vs checkers.

A few pilots to having to commute for a few months is an unacceptable level of gain for the permanent loss of jobs if we're dumb enough to make this permanent.

11-15-2016, 09:27 AM

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Originally Posted by gloopy

First of all, the chess vs checkers analogy was played out 5 years ago. It's boring and doesn't relate to this at all.

Second, regarding this whole thing; You have an opinion and a vote just like me.