TAprocon

tunes

i await your analysis on how the JV changes are a good thing....

TAprocon

If you have input on the subject it is welcome. The details are being worked out, but the site is planning to open up to submissions from any pilot. If you have a pro or con piece on any section/topic in the TA, you can submit it to [email protected]

The plan is to post signed submissions without comment. Unsigned submissions will be collated together and published in aggregate. All submissions must show their work and provide source language where applicable - the facts are what they are.

404yxl

A rotation designated for OE, meaning it has a note in it that says it is for OE.

Now, you will now allow the company to pull up to 15% of the trips from open time and they no longer need to be designated for OE.

Your sales job is already bleeding through. You are not even attempting to show the cons here!

TAprocon

The graphic is simply a visual explanation of the proposed language. You can read into it whatever you like

If you find inaccuracies, submit the feedback and they will be corrected. It's already happened several times today (thanks to those that have caught mistakes in IVD's & category freezes)

404yxl

If you want to pretend to give the pros and the cons, you are doing a terrible job at it.

The current language only allows them to pull trips that are designated for OE, you know that pesky little note they put on the pairing when they intend to use it for OE, which rarely exists on open time trips that have a Check Airman on them. Now you want to allow them to pull up to 15% of the trips with no such designation.

Keep selling.

Hank Kingsley

I'm voting yes no matter what the language reads, so I kinda cancel your vote. Now that's complete TIC. But you get the point.

Scoop

Not really an inaccuracy, but maybe you left something out. Isn't there also a time limit that the trip has to be assigned or it goes back into the pot?

I thought I heard or read somewhere that the company has 48 hours once they pull a trip to schedule an OE or the trip returns to open time - is this true?

Scoop

Xray678

Actually, I don't have a huge issue with the concept of pulling trips from open time except for one thing.....the ability to pull before the PCA run is bull**** and completely unsat. In fact any trip should have to go through a full day of PCS runs (4 PCS runs) before OE planners can pull it.

TAprocon

Look. You're afraid for some reason of the actual information being put out. That's fine. Your agenda is showing

If you can show an inaccuracy in any data on the site, it will be updated ASAP. Otherwise we are just talking past each other.

You are absolutely right, the current language says they can withhold a trip that has been designated for OE. There is no limit on how many trips they can designate for OE. <---those are facts

The TA has it's own set of facts, which are different from the current language. If you don't like it fine. The TA language is there for anyone to compare it. All the graphic does is translate the legalese into a digestible format.

OE trip removal is actually listed in the Subjective column because it's up to YOU to determine what you think about it. It is simply listed to highlight that the TA contains a change:

Delta TA Pro/Con

Here's the full Section 23 language if you want to read if yourself. Or you could just keep warbling about a sales job that doesn't exist:

http://www.taprocon.com/source-docs/Section-23