OE/TOE Trip Removal
10-10-2016, 12:59 PM
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Actually, I don't have a huge issue with the concept of pulling trips from open time except for one thing.....the ability to pull before the PCA run is bull**** and completely unsat. In fact any trip should have to go through a full day of PCS runs (4 PCS runs) before OE planners can pull it.
10-10-2016, 01:11 PM
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Not really an inaccuracy, but maybe you left something out. Isn't there also a time limit that the trip has to be assigned or it goes back into the pot?
I thought I heard or read somewhere that the company has 48 hours once they pull a trip to schedule an OE or the trip returns to open time - is this true?
Scoop
I thought I heard or read somewhere that the company has 48 hours once they pull a trip to schedule an OE or the trip returns to open time - is this true?
Scoop
http://www.taprocon.com/#/section-23
I believe you are referring to 23.M.4.b which covers a trip that is open in both seats (no A or B). The TA says they can pull that trip for OE, but they have to return it to Open Time if they haven't assigned an LCP within 2 days.
Here is the excerpt:
A rotation that is unassigned to any pilot and, in the opinion of the Company, is suitable for conducting OE may be removed from open time at any time after adjusted lines are made available for viewing in DBMS. Such rotation will be immediately returned to open time if no LCP has been assigned the rotation by 2359E on the second full business day following its removal from open time (e.g., a rotation removed at 1200E on Tuesday would be returned no later than 2359E on Thursday).
10-10-2016, 01:53 PM
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He/she said that they were getting FPL to post here, so I assume they are posting on behalf of the MEC.
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10-10-2016, 03:41 PM
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10-10-2016, 04:31 PM
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The criteria for categorizing a pro/con is clearly laid out on the site:
If a change does not easily fit into the pro or con column, it is listed as subjective to note that a change was made vs the Current PWA. The visitor must then draw his own conclusions. References and source language are provided wherever possible
There is no agenda other than the objective truth. The TA will live or die on its own merit, as it should
10-11-2016, 02:47 AM
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My big question about the new LCA trip pulls is who is going to monitor this and make sure they do not pull more trips than allowed(especially after the 25th of current month going thru the end of the next month)? I think I know the answer. Nobody. Also, I wonder how many LCA will trade their current trip to pick up a trip in open time for IOE. You know the company will be strongly encouraging them to do this.
10-11-2016, 05:14 AM
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My big question about the new LCA trip pulls is who is going to monitor this and make sure they do not pull more trips than allowed(especially after the 25th of current month going thru the end of the next month)? I think I know the answer. Nobody. Also, I wonder how many LCA will trade their current trip to pick up a trip in open time for IOE. You know the company will be strongly encouraging them to do this.
10-11-2016, 05:53 AM
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My big question about the new LCA trip pulls is who is going to monitor this and make sure they do not pull more trips than allowed(especially after the 25th of current month going thru the end of the next month)? I think I know the answer. Nobody. Also, I wonder how many LCA will trade their current trip to pick up a trip in open time for IOE. You know the company will be strongly encouraging them to do this.
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