Negotiation Rumors
10-03-2016, 11:51 AM
#102
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Seems like a craptastic situation to put a new hire in by potentially getting them stuck in NY.
If you get 757 NY, you can't bid into LAX for 2 years if the 757 has no openings, even though you could potential hold 75% or better 717.
Would have to see the language to know for sure.
10-03-2016, 11:54 AM
#103
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So if you get an equipment that your desired base has (NY has every fleet type you could bid anyways), you could get stuck for 2 years while junior pilots get an airplane in your desired base and you are unable to bid it and can't transfer in on your current aircraft because it goes senior there.
Seems like a craptastic situation to put a new hire in by potentially getting them stuck in NY.
If you get 757 NY, you can't bid into LAX for 2 years if the 757 has no openings, even though you could potential hold 75% or better 717.
Seems like a craptastic situation to put a new hire in by potentially getting them stuck in NY.
If you get 757 NY, you can't bid into LAX for 2 years if the 757 has no openings, even though you could potential hold 75% or better 717.
10-03-2016, 11:56 AM
#104
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We have a 1 year seat lock right now. A new hire getting the 7ER NY can bid the 717 LAX after 1 year to get to LAX. With the TA, they won't be able to get to LAX for 2 years, unless a LAX 7ER spot magically opens.
10-03-2016, 12:43 PM
#105
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10-03-2016, 12:53 PM
#106
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If only 15% of the trips are removed from ioe bidding that still leaves alot of trips that will have ioe on them. Some months on the 88 they use almost 100% of the trips for ioe.. Has something else changed with ioe trips on the new AIP?
10-03-2016, 01:23 PM
#107
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Completely different than TA1 and could have worse QOL affects on FO's
10-03-2016, 02:16 PM
#108
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I would have preferred to exchange the new seat lock for Delta covering the hotels during new hire training. If you take something from the new hires, then you should give something back.
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