FL370esq

Looks like Malone is going to reach out to the NMB and try to get talks started again. Probably our last attempt to save full retro. Now we get to see how much the company wants a deal. Should be interesting.

whitt767

Interesting... wonder what the direction is?

Schwanker

Standby for "industry leading blah blah blah..."

For me, the AIPs are a deal killer and I don't foresee those being pulled. They are all concessionary in nature.

Sink r8

Malone has to have something tangible to work with, or no amount of reaching out will do. So I'm going to give the MEC the benefit of the doubt that this direction is a sufficient display of good faith on our part, to get the process going again. My understanding is that up to now, this hasn't been the case, but I haven't heard anything about the new direction, which is the way it should be.

Stupid moves eventually have a way of being discovered. But assuming that they're actually finally showing signs of leadership, and making coherent decisions, they do need our backing, and a little room to work quietly. I've noticed that we have a really nasty tendency to talk about areas in which we might be shifting our stance. A lot of it is conjecture, but some of it seems to be leaks of actual negotiating positions. That's insane.

I do feel confident in saying that there probably is a workable deal between the last table positions that meets pilot requirements. I want them to reach it, and I also want them to reach the best possible deal within the range.

So, unless I hear that we've once again taken an unworkable stance, I'm going to commend the MEC on re-engaging, and back them up on this Get Serious stuff. The company shouldn't be emboldened to play hard-ball.

tunes

set sail for fail

notEnuf

Groveling... not a great strategy. Scared into no retro, fear is rampant. New direction? Lets call it what it is, lower table position.

404yxl

Nice lie.

Southwest got full retro years after they started their negotiations. Full retro for everyone, retired, separated, deceased. Fully including 401K match and Profit Sharing.

Raging white

Any chance that this fear of caving is misplaced? Surely JM realizes that the AIP's, coupled with our already lowered pay rates put MEMRAT at considerable risk. Is there a chance he and the NC significantly improve the company's offer? It's just hard for me to think they'd risk a second overwhelming fail.

Omar 111

3%/4%/4% is not full retro. Why do you keep throwing that out? They basically got a cost of living bump-not full retro.

Omar

404yxl

Quit your lies and deceit. Southwest never took paycuts. Delta ALPA isn't even asking for full restoration.

For the record, they got 3%/4% on that 3%/4% on the 4% on the 3%.

I know it hurts since just prior to them getting full retro, you and your buddies were spouting off how no one ever got full retro, and then they got it.

They got full retro. Period.