Negotiation sessions scheduled
09-01-2016, 05:03 PM
#82
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Unless, one of the career ALPA shills is involved in the process. There are a few i would never want standing between me and a fatigue call...50/50 outcome at best!
09-01-2016, 05:11 PM
#83
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I have dealt with this twice and both times The "career ALPA shills" I had were rock solid...100% positive outcome...
09-01-2016, 05:53 PM
#84
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Joined APC: May 2008
Position: VEOP Retired! 7ER A was last position
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Why must you commingle Profit sharing and pay rates? This is insane. Show your math. Best I come up with is $315/hr if you lump it all together. Sorry they are two different forms of compensation from two different sources, protecting both time and investment of the Delta pilots.
09-01-2016, 05:55 PM
#85
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The math is easy. Current rate 218.00. 16.5% now and 3% on I Jan. DC rate of 16% on 1 Jan. The original poster included those items. The comparison is us to SW so adding PS is valid since our program is better.
Delta Rate with DC on 1 Jan. 303
SWA rate with DC on 1 Jan. 278
I fully expect we will see a slightly higher rate in the final product and I expect to retain the pensionability aspect of the PS. I used the companies current table position as worst case numbers.
Delta Rate with DC on 1 Jan. 303
SWA rate with DC on 1 Jan. 278
I fully expect we will see a slightly higher rate in the final product and I expect to retain the pensionability aspect of the PS. I used the companies current table position as worst case numbers.
I plan on the PS number being zero and that way I am pleasantly surprised when something other than $0 shows up on Valentine's Day. Pay rates are pay rates and profit sharing is profit sharing. The two are independent methods of compensation but only one is "certain." Emphasize and strengthen the "certain." 😊
09-01-2016, 07:14 PM
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09-02-2016, 03:10 AM
#89
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SWA scope. All Delta regional flying returned to mainline. 5000 pilots. No JV. We do all our international flying.
No PBS. 15% more pilots. 2000 additional pilots. Not saying we should drop PBS, just comparing apples to apples. SWA has no PBS.
Trips touching vacation at SWA. More than double our vacation. 2000 more pilots.
:54 minutes TFP. 800 more Delta pilots.
6.5 TFP for training day and reserve day. 1200 more Delta pilots.
At least 3500 more Delta captains if we had the SWA aip.
Imagine your domestic quality of life if we had 3 day trips worth 22 hours vs our 15:45.
No PBS. 15% more pilots. 2000 additional pilots. Not saying we should drop PBS, just comparing apples to apples. SWA has no PBS.
Trips touching vacation at SWA. More than double our vacation. 2000 more pilots.
:54 minutes TFP. 800 more Delta pilots.
6.5 TFP for training day and reserve day. 1200 more Delta pilots.
At least 3500 more Delta captains if we had the SWA aip.
Imagine your domestic quality of life if we had 3 day trips worth 22 hours vs our 15:45.
09-02-2016, 03:14 AM
#90
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Joined APC: Apr 2007
Position: Flying the SEC
Posts: 2,350
SWA scope. All Delta regional flying returned to mainline. 5000 pilots. No JV. We do all our international flying.
No PBS. 15% more pilots. 2000 additional pilots. Not saying we should drop PBS, just comparing apples to apples. SWA has no PBS.
Trips touching vacation at SWA. More than double our vacation. 2000 more pilots.
:54 minutes TFP. 800 more Delta pilots.
6.5 TFP for training day and reserve day. 1200 more Delta pilots.
At least 3500 more Delta captains if we had the SWA aip.
Imagine your domestic quality of life if we had 3 day trips worth 22 hours vs our 15:45.
No PBS. 15% more pilots. 2000 additional pilots. Not saying we should drop PBS, just comparing apples to apples. SWA has no PBS.
Trips touching vacation at SWA. More than double our vacation. 2000 more pilots.
:54 minutes TFP. 800 more Delta pilots.
6.5 TFP for training day and reserve day. 1200 more Delta pilots.
At least 3500 more Delta captains if we had the SWA aip.
Imagine your domestic quality of life if we had 3 day trips worth 22 hours vs our 15:45.
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