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09-01-2016, 01:32 PM
#71
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as someone that was unable to vote on the last ta, you can be sure i'll be looking at the above items on the next one and will have no qualms voting no if they don't change from the aips. Pay raises are nice, but not if they're paid for with concessions especially when i have 20+ years remaining.
09-01-2016, 01:33 PM
#72
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You don't think that's happening at Delta right now? We have no hard caps, just FAR117. Guys use the P2P swap board and/or swap with the pot to get way above ALV+15 every day.
09-01-2016, 03:11 PM
#73
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Of course according to the forum nobody can swap anything!
09-01-2016, 03:18 PM
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LOL. The TA could offer 100% raises and 364 days off a year and you'd vote no.
09-01-2016, 03:27 PM
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Timbo is right on this. One of my contract survey/polling issues has been to limit ALL pickup to ALV + 15. Mgmt LOVES when we volunteer to fly straight rate to FAR. Dude called me last year to swap a trip.. so he could position himself to pick up to FAR... I told him he'd personally probably cost someone 3 GS the preceding year. Duhh. I also don't understand PD's comments about the fitness review board... isn't the FRB an improvement over current language? Another "poster" seems to think UAL's work rules are better... How? 1 Cap and 3 FO on ultra long haul? Would you like that Timbo? A few days ago someone complained that new hires on reserve were being flown every day... in summer... Really? They are new hires on reserve on call. We have all been there. It's an education in the seniority vs junior-ity system. Contract wise I'm not advocating giving up much, but exchanges greatly in our favor need consideration and occasionally on the Forum we should compare apples to apples. Still awaiting a final product. Still a little angry with company response(s)... engaged.. No hurry. OFG
09-01-2016, 03:32 PM
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Timbo is right on this. One of my contract survey/polling issues has been to limit ALL pickup to ALV + 15. Mgmt LOVES when we volunteer to fly straight rate to FAR. Dude called me last year to swap a trip.. so he could position himself to pick up to FAR... I told him he'd personally probably cost someone 3 GS the preceding year. Duhh. I also don't understand PD's comments about the fitness review board... isn't the FRB an improvement over current language? Another "poster" seems to think UAL's work rules are better... How? 1 Cap and 3 FO on ultra long haul? Would you like that Timbo? A few days ago someone complained that new hires on reserve were being flown every day... in summer... Really? They are new hires on reserve on call. We have all been there. It's an education in the seniority vs junior-ity system. Contract wise I'm not advocating giving up much, but exchanges greatly in our favor need consideration and occasionally on the Forum we should compare apples to apples. Still awaiting a final product. Still a little angry with company response(s)... engaged.. No hurry. OFG
09-01-2016, 03:37 PM
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Timbo is right on this. One of my contract survey/polling issues has been to limit ALL pickup to ALV + 15. Mgmt LOVES when we volunteer to fly straight rate to FAR. Dude called me last year to swap a trip.. so he could position himself to pick up to FAR... I told him he'd personally probably cost someone 3 GS the preceding year. Duhh. I also don't understand PD's comments about the fitness review board... isn't the FRB an improvement over current language? Another "poster" seems to think UAL's work rules are better... How? 1 Cap and 3 FO on ultra long haul? Would you like that Timbo? A few days ago someone complained that new hires on reserve were being flown every day... in summer... Really? They are new hires on reserve on call. We have all been there. It's an education in the seniority vs junior-ity system. Contract wise I'm not advocating giving up much, but exchanges greatly in our favor need consideration and occasionally on the Forum we should compare apples to apples. Still awaiting a final product. Still a little angry with company response(s)... engaged.. No hurry. OFG
09-01-2016, 03:52 PM
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