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Old 12-07-2016, 08:07 AM
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Originally Posted by TED74
I've known many an ignoramus with a decade of experience in their given fields. If you see drama in my post, or think my interest in preserving an exceptional safety record has anything to do with one's "safe space", I pity your inability to think critically.

If you understand ORM in aviation, you know there is an inverse correlation between risk levels and experience in type, especially in the first 500 hours. A particularly unforgiving aircraft like the MD88 (and unpredictable avionics like those in the Chinese-operated 90s) will exacerbate challenges...your hyperbole aside.

Sure, experienced crews can bring elevated ORM levels to any operation. But on average over thousands of operations in any given month, less experienced crews (and captains) will bring more risk. If you disagree, perhaps we should mask flying experience in Airline Apps?
It's funny that it was not that long ago that the 88 was considered one of the easier aircraft to transition to with great avionics. Times have changed over the years!
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Originally Posted by Tanker1497
ORM...there's a real solid safety tool. We used it, right up until we couldn't use it and fly!
Last deployment I went on I got a lecture about how my crew's ORM score was too high. The next time I flew it was changed by the squadron comander. Crew stopped doing ORM after that. No one said a thing to us about it.
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Old 12-07-2016, 09:08 AM
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Originally Posted by tunes
have buddies in both the Jan 3 and Jan 9 classes
When was their CJO?
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Old 12-07-2016, 09:56 AM
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Originally Posted by CAtoUTJC83
When was their CJO?


Beginning of oct


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Old 12-07-2016, 10:58 AM
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I'm in the January 9 class and had a 10/5 CJO. I know of 10/6 being in the same class but I'm not sure beyond that.
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Old 12-07-2016, 12:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Klondike Bear
Last deployment I went on I got a lecture about how my crew's ORM score was too high. The next time I flew it was changed by the squadron comander. Crew stopped doing ORM after that. No one said a thing to us about it.
We never did them in the hot theater either, for the same reason. That's my point, ORM tool is a joke!
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Old 12-08-2016, 07:02 AM
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Originally Posted by FL370esq
I would bet the company lifts F/O seat freezes before we ever see an off-the-street Captain.
Just for accuracy's sake, the company would never need to lift an F/O's freeze because our PWA specifically states that a category freeze can not prevent a pilot from being awarded their first mainline captain position. Whatever remains of your original freeze gets tacked onto the new one.
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Was there a class today?
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Old 12-12-2016, 10:17 AM
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Originally Posted by TexanDriver
Was there a class today?
no. no more classes until jan 3
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Old 12-13-2016, 11:31 AM
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Originally Posted by sailingfun
It's funny that it was not that long ago that the 88 was considered one of the easier aircraft to transition to with great avionics. Times have changed over the years!
I flew it when it just had AHRS. It was da bomb.
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