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Old 11-28-2016, 05:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Yuuuup
Thought there was supposed to be a class today? Seeing what the equipment was
Found elsewhere...

All NYC
3 737
3 717
13 320
21 88
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Old 11-28-2016, 05:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Dustycrophoppin
Found elsewhere...

All NYC
3 737
3 717
13 320
21 88
Those 21 88's were A's
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Old 11-28-2016, 05:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Dustycrophoppin
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All NYC
3 737
3 717
13 320
21 88
Hmmm.....21 M88s to NYC? Interesting. The March 2017 LGA ban and its fall-out just keep getting murkier and murkier...
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Old 11-28-2016, 05:32 PM
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Originally Posted by asacimesp
Airspace redesigns up there will require an RNAV approach to 13 in the near future. Not even the GPS equipped -90's are approach certified. JFK will have a similar restriction shortly after that. Also, we only have I believe 19 GPS equipped -90's.

This info is directly from one of the technical pilots working with Boeing on the FMS/GPS and .3nm RNP certifications that I recently flew with.

I would expect significant changes to the NY category over the next year or two before the upgrades are complete. Just my thoughts.
We have 14 90's with GPS. Co is scrambling trying to
Figure out how to get an approach certified for them AND crews trained by March. Projected June 88 block hours down 44%, by next Nov down 77%. Co is planning on no displacements and will be posting Atl vacancies hoping for takers and a lot of rotations beginning & ending with a DH. I'd say if you're below 50%
In either seat get out while the getting is good or you're going to end up on reserve covering a much larger footprint in EWR.
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Old 11-28-2016, 06:51 PM
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Originally Posted by FL370esq
Hmmm.....21 M88s to NYC? Interesting. The March 2017 LGA ban and its fall-out just keep getting murkier and murkier...
I wouldn't read too much into that. 21 M88 pilots in NYC won't even put a dent in the December AE attrit from the same category naturally.
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Old 11-28-2016, 07:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Erdude32
We have 14 90's with GPS. Co is scrambling trying to
Figure out how to get an approach certified for them AND crews trained by March. Projected June 88 block hours down 44%, by next Nov down 77%. Co is planning on no displacements and will be posting Atl vacancies hoping for takers and a lot of rotations beginning & ending with a DH. I'd say if you're below 50%
In either seat get out while the getting is good or you're going to end up on reserve covering a much larger footprint in EWR.
If you're a 4-16 month newly hired type person, it might be harder to hold ATL or MSP 88A. Other than that, it's probably pretty good advice.

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Old 11-29-2016, 04:05 AM
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Originally Posted by gloopy
I wouldn't read too much into that. 21 M88 pilots in NYC won't even put a dent in the December AE attrit from the same category naturally.
I agree (and there was a smidge.of facetious hyperbole in my post). 😆

The real "issue" is on the M88A side. How many Capts will attrit to ATL (or MSP?) to balance the category? Or can marketing work enough viable (and profitable) equipment swaps to the other NYC co-terminals to sustain the category until a solution is implemented?

Either that or the NYCM88 category better have the Delta Studio/GoGo Entertainment app downloaded to those wonderful S3s on the next update 'cause they will be needing it for all the DHs in/out of NYC. 😅
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Old 11-29-2016, 08:48 AM
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Originally Posted by Erdude32
We have 14 90's with GPS. Co is scrambling trying to
Figure out how to get an approach certified for them AND crews trained by March. Projected June 88 block hours down 44%, by next Nov down 77%. Co is planning on no displacements and will be posting Atl vacancies hoping for takers and a lot of rotations beginning & ending with a DH. I'd say if you're below 50%
In either seat get out while the getting is good or you're going to end up on reserve covering a much larger footprint in EWR.
Know what they're going to replace the flying with? Its not like Delta is just going to let that flying go to someone else. Where did you get those numbers from you listed above?
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Old 11-29-2016, 08:54 AM
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Originally Posted by Caribbeanflyer
Know what they're going to replace the flying with? Its not like Delta is just going to let that flying go to someone else. Where did you get those numbers from you listed above?
They've already said more 737 and 320 flying will move in to cover it.
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Old 11-29-2016, 01:53 PM
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Originally Posted by GogglesPisano
Those 21 88's were A's
Just curious but what does the "A" mean next to the 88? Is that the model designation.
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