DAL Class drops
12-27-2018, 05:30 PM
#2531
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The original 787s? We must have been looking at two different performance data then. Of course being on time has no importance either. In case you forgot, that is a big part of the reason why we don't have them. (over promise... under deliver)
12-27-2018, 06:03 PM
#2532
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The aircraft is meeting all the performance specs and selling very well. Airlines can’t seem to get enough of them!
12-27-2018, 06:05 PM
#2533
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The single-pilot cockpit WILL happen eventually, just as the pilotless aircraft. The question is going to be "when?"
I don't think we'll go single-pilot for 15-20 years. It took years after the technology was proven to get rid of the Flight Engineer. The DC-10 didn't really need an engineer at all. How about the early 737s where they were run with an FE.
What will have to happen before this occurs is the flying public will have to accept other automated transportation systems. Driverless cars are in the works, but they aren't normal yet. Driverless busses? This and they'll have to have a good safety record.
I don't think we'll go single-pilot for 15-20 years. It took years after the technology was proven to get rid of the Flight Engineer. The DC-10 didn't really need an engineer at all. How about the early 737s where they were run with an FE.
What will have to happen before this occurs is the flying public will have to accept other automated transportation systems. Driverless cars are in the works, but they aren't normal yet. Driverless busses? This and they'll have to have a good safety record.
More information for you on the subject
https://ethw.org/First-Hand:Evolutio...rt_Flight_Deck
12-28-2018, 04:47 AM
#2535
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12-28-2018, 09:28 AM
#2536
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The single-pilot cockpit WILL happen eventually, just as the pilotless aircraft. The question is going to be "when?"
I don't think we'll go single-pilot for 15-20 years. It took years after the technology was proven to get rid of the Flight Engineer. The DC-10 didn't really need an engineer at all. How about the early 737s where they were run with an FE.
What will have to happen before this occurs is the flying public will have to accept other automated transportation systems. Driverless cars are in the works, but they aren't normal yet. Driverless busses? This and they'll have to have a good safety record.
I don't think we'll go single-pilot for 15-20 years. It took years after the technology was proven to get rid of the Flight Engineer. The DC-10 didn't really need an engineer at all. How about the early 737s where they were run with an FE.
What will have to happen before this occurs is the flying public will have to accept other automated transportation systems. Driverless cars are in the works, but they aren't normal yet. Driverless busses? This and they'll have to have a good safety record.
I will, however, still stand by my original premise that the DC-10 and the 737 (from a systems and operational standpoint) didn't need the FE. I agree that it was ALPA (as well as the Teamsters) lobbying HARD to keep the FE (read more jobs) that kept that position as long as it did.
I also believe that it will be lobbying by ALPA, sometimes directly to the flying public, stating that 'Safety of Flight' will be reduced if we go to single pilot (and eventually pilotless) that will keep two pilots in the cockpit. Just like the FE position, we will most likely see a two pilot cockpit even after the single-pilot technology exists and is proven.
12-31-2018, 05:43 AM
#2539
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12-31-2018, 07:36 AM
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We do however seem to have a knack for loving our orphan children!
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