DAL Class drops
04-03-2018, 12:08 AM
#2201
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Joined APC: Feb 2010
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Simply put, the MD-88 has complicated flows, numerous different configurations, systems that beep & flash at you just to let you know everything is OK, & a few gotchas that can set you up for failure if you aren't paying attention. Also, you have to do NDB approaches in the 88, but the 717 doesn't even have an ADF in it.
04-03-2018, 01:23 AM
#2202
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Joined APC: Sep 2014
Posts: 4,994
[QUOTE=Breadcream;2563810]The 88 is in fewer bases, so a base change is more likely to necessitate retraining. Also, the 88 sucks.
04-03-2018, 03:04 AM
#2203
Line Holder
Joined APC: Jun 2008
Posts: 49
After year 1 the 88 pays approx $5 more per hour.
The 88 has a longer range.
I hear summertime, the 717 apu will keep you cooler in the front.
The 717 is just a big regional jet. When Delta wants to expand regional markets with main line service, the 717 goes in first.
The 717 training is simpler than the 88.
The 717 should be around longer than the 88.
The 717 has the same fms as the MD-11.
As from a seniority point the 88 is slightly better due to the fact more FO’s leave it so soon.
The type rating is the same for the 717/88.
The 88 has a longer range.
I hear summertime, the 717 apu will keep you cooler in the front.
The 717 is just a big regional jet. When Delta wants to expand regional markets with main line service, the 717 goes in first.
The 717 training is simpler than the 88.
The 717 should be around longer than the 88.
The 717 has the same fms as the MD-11.
As from a seniority point the 88 is slightly better due to the fact more FO’s leave it so soon.
The type rating is the same for the 717/88.
04-03-2018, 04:44 AM
#2204
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Joined APC: Feb 2009
Position: Fetal
Posts: 1,148
The 88 has an ADF, but I’ve never seen it used to do anything but pick up AM radio.
The 717 FMS is NOT a selling point, especially when comparing it to the 88.
The main advantages of the 717 over the 88 are the aforementioned packs, the FADEC/reversers and the auto-upload of the flight plan & TOLD. These make the 717 a no-brainer over the 88, especially when compared on the level playing field of first-year pay.
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The 717 FMS is NOT a selling point, especially when comparing it to the 88.
The main advantages of the 717 over the 88 are the aforementioned packs, the FADEC/reversers and the auto-upload of the flight plan & TOLD. These make the 717 a no-brainer over the 88, especially when compared on the level playing field of first-year pay.
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04-03-2018, 05:36 AM
#2205
Swearing at the FMA
Joined APC: Jun 2006
Position: MD-88 FO
Posts: 902
Different strokes for different folks. Some prefer a jet that gets them seniority (88) quickly in a specific base (ATL) versus the "nicer" jet. All subject to change (especially with the 88 retirements happening), so even that is just a guess.
Look at the info, don't listen to naysayers that haven't flown what you're asking about, and decide what is best for you. Then don't look back. It's a great ride either way.
Look at the info, don't listen to naysayers that haven't flown what you're asking about, and decide what is best for you. Then don't look back. It's a great ride either way.
04-03-2018, 07:39 AM
#2208
Roll’n Thunder
Joined APC: Oct 2009
Position: Pilot
Posts: 3,836
That ship has sailed due to the fleet draw down starting hot and heavy this fall. Plus since we haven't had any narrowbody A positions since the moab there is a pent up demand that will keep those positions from going super junior.
04-03-2018, 07:55 AM
#2209
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Joined APC: Feb 2007
Posts: 1,057
I could be wrong though.
04-03-2018, 11:28 AM
#2210
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Joined APC: Jun 2015
Posts: 3,149
But the Airbus makes Windshear recoveries a breeze and....well....who doesn't want to eat their meal on a tray table in a spacious and quiet cockpit rather than on top of a logbook resting against a yoke? 😁
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