Talk to me about schedule flexibilty @ Delta
09-17-2016, 02:35 PM
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09-17-2016, 02:40 PM
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I didn't see that. Are we unloading our 150+ WB jets, plus the 50 or so on order? Wow, we are in trouble.
09-17-2016, 02:45 PM
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We have no quality of life at Delta! I'm working 12 days this month with 7days of vacation allocated.
The pay is not industry leading and retirement is a 401k company contribution that will leave you short at retirement, you might get to upgrade fast or get to widebody FO fast, but you will be on reserve for a very long time.
No crystal ball, but as of today Delta work environment is very bad with FAR117 being our contract, harassment over sick calls, fatigue calls and unfit to continue extensions with 86% chance of getting paid for such events.
You will work harder, with less commutable trips for a very long time with no relief in site with our current failed negotiations!
But we the pilots would welcome you with open arms to our dysfunctional family!
The pay is not industry leading and retirement is a 401k company contribution that will leave you short at retirement, you might get to upgrade fast or get to widebody FO fast, but you will be on reserve for a very long time.
No crystal ball, but as of today Delta work environment is very bad with FAR117 being our contract, harassment over sick calls, fatigue calls and unfit to continue extensions with 86% chance of getting paid for such events.
You will work harder, with less commutable trips for a very long time with no relief in site with our current failed negotiations!
But we the pilots would welcome you with open arms to our dysfunctional family!
Really thought this was TIC. You need to move on if you think it's that bad. Seriously.
09-18-2016, 02:10 PM
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Stay with SWA
I'm approaching my second year at Southwest, off reserve, and about to start driving to work. I thoroughly enjoy the schedule flexibility I have here at Southwest. Even as a first year guy I have only worked one weekend since April, have averaged about 12-13 days of work a month, and most of my trips are commutable on both ends even though I'm close to holding a line in a base that I can drive to.
With that said I have an upcoming interview at Delta and curious to know what kind of schedule I can expect my first, second, third, and so on years. Moving to a Delta base is NOT an option and I'm commuting from TPA so I'm wondering how long would it take to achieve a 12-13 day month schedule that is primarily weekdays and has trips that are commutable on both ends? I know I'm asking for a lot, but I'm having a hard time deciding if the improved pay, retirement, and upgrade time at Delta is worth the QOL I would be giving up at Southwest.
At Southwest we have two ways to trade trips. One is a pilot to pilot trade and the other is a pilot to company trade. Between these two tools I have had really good luck these past few months turning an all weekend flying line into an all weekday line while also reducing the number of days I fly. Do you have something similar at Delta and how effective is it?
Thanks in advance!
With that said I have an upcoming interview at Delta and curious to know what kind of schedule I can expect my first, second, third, and so on years. Moving to a Delta base is NOT an option and I'm commuting from TPA so I'm wondering how long would it take to achieve a 12-13 day month schedule that is primarily weekdays and has trips that are commutable on both ends? I know I'm asking for a lot, but I'm having a hard time deciding if the improved pay, retirement, and upgrade time at Delta is worth the QOL I would be giving up at Southwest.
At Southwest we have two ways to trade trips. One is a pilot to pilot trade and the other is a pilot to company trade. Between these two tools I have had really good luck these past few months turning an all weekend flying line into an all weekday line while also reducing the number of days I fly. Do you have something similar at Delta and how effective is it?
Thanks in advance!
09-19-2016, 09:30 PM
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That might skew the category progression required to meet UPS career earnings per the DALPA comparison video. Its doable just follow that career track and you will make UPS career earnings, if you work to 65 that is, any thing less than that and you will have to make the higher category jump earlier to stay on track. The good news is you will only have to spend 5 years on the MD88/90 at the most.
09-20-2016, 04:31 AM
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Don't even think about it. Living in base will provide tremendous flexibility to earn extra pay. QOL driving to work far outweighs any additional $'s you MIGHT EARN @ Delta. It will be almost impossible to get a 12-13 day month any time within the first 10 years. Most guys I know are working 14-18 days a month working over 80 hours/month. Stay where you are - even with slow upgrades you make that up with premium flying by being in base.
09-20-2016, 04:37 AM
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