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Old 06-20-2016, 10:29 AM
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Originally Posted by gloopy
Exactly. UAL+ with zero concessions is the absolute theoretical floor. Even that won't MEMRAT if we don't get a real vacation system. 3:15 a day with 0:15 pay/no credit is absolutely unacceptable. Close to or above 5 hours a day pay and credit, with no ability to pick up more, should be the absolute floor.
So now this version of vacation 'must haves' is absolutely one of the most critical things to a deal passing MEMRAT?

I really want a list.
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Old 06-20-2016, 10:34 AM
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So at what point do new hires become eligible to vote on the TA? I know you need to be off probation (duh) but when? Anytime before the vote, before it's released for MEMRAT, before the reps vote...........
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Originally Posted by JamesBond
So now this version of vacation 'must haves' is absolutely one of the most critical things to a deal passing MEMRAT?

I really want a list.
3:15 vacation absolutely sucks. That is a deeply concessionary cancer from an era where the fear of liquidation was the primary motivator. It is time that ends. And pay/no credit is a non starter. Our vacation sucks. It needs to get significantly better.
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Well......considering when we decided to 'monetize' vacation value....the 'best' we could achieve is I believe 3:45....I wouldn't get too excited about returning to the good old days
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Old 06-20-2016, 12:51 PM
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Originally Posted by gloopy
After 6 or 7 walk arounds they're black from all the dirt/oil/mud/tar that drips off those things like dollar bills at a strip club.
Haha.... Too true! Although it's the -88 that ISN'T leaking that you have to watch out for!
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Old 06-20-2016, 02:42 PM
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Haha.... Too true! Although it's the -88 that ISN'T leaking that you have to watch out for!
Just for the record, I can count almost every rivet on the A320 nowadays. All of the rivets are showing through the paint. new interiors though.
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Old 06-20-2016, 02:48 PM
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Just for the record, I can count almost every rivet on the A320 nowadays. All of the rivets are showing through the paint. new interiors though.
As long as you can't see the styrofoam the rivets are holding together you are good to go.
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Old 06-22-2016, 06:34 PM
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Originally Posted by TED74
I hope you are in the minority in focusing on pay rates, and in softly hoping for "some small gains" elsewhere. You definitely set a low bar - I guess that's one way to set yourself up for happiness at the next TA.
You must be misinterpreting my feelings - I have voted no on the last 2 TAs.
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Old 06-23-2016, 10:40 AM
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So now this version of vacation 'must haves' is absolutely one of the most critical things to a deal passing MEMRAT?

I really want a list.
Belligerent much?
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Old 06-23-2016, 10:54 AM
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Originally Posted by Vincent Chase
Belligerent much?
You can take it that way since you obviously want to. Irony is the word that comes to mind.
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