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Old 06-18-2016, 12:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Ray Red
If it's an FO that isn't wearing orange, being on probation would be the most likely cause.
Only one probationary F/O I'm aware of. No worries there. My seat-o-pants survey suggests that the majority of 50/50 Orange cockpits are established by non-participating captains. Not sure why, since left seaters are supposed to lead by example.

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Old 06-18-2016, 01:23 PM
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Originally Posted by zippinbye
Only one probationary F/O I'm aware of. No worries there. My seat-o-pants survey suggests that the majority of 50/50 Orange cockpits are established by non-participating captains. Not sure why, since left seaters are supposed to lead by example.
almost every captain i've flown with has been wearing orange....but i'm on a narrow body.
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Old 06-18-2016, 01:49 PM
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Originally Posted by GogglesPisano
I detest lanyards. They get in the way. But I'll wear the orange one until we have a new PWA.
X2. I'm in the same boat.
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Old 06-18-2016, 02:16 PM
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Originally Posted by tunes
almost every captain i've flown with has been wearing orange....but i'm on a narrow body.
Im on a wide body. Last trip, 2 orange capts 1 orange fo (me) and one non-orange fo. So, my little factfinding mission was to find out why...

Other FO basically hated all things ALPA. To which, I retorted, every pilot in this cockpit hates ALPA...followed by a long laundry list of whys.

Believe it or not, that was a revelation. Orange lanyard offered with a cool little orange angry birds watch and accepted. Everything was right with the world.
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Old 06-18-2016, 02:53 PM
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In my observation, it seems to me that the 330 fleet has very few orange lanyards. Has anyone notice this?

My fleet, the 765, seems pretty orange.
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Old 06-18-2016, 02:56 PM
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Originally Posted by scambo1
Im on a wide body. Last trip, 2 orange capts 1 orange fo (me) and one non-orange fo. So, my little factfinding mission was to find out why...

Other FO basically hated all things ALPA. To which, I retorted, every pilot in this cockpit hates ALPA...followed by a long laundry list of whys.

Believe it or not, that was a revelation. Orange lanyard offered with a cool little orange angry birds watch and accepted. Everything was right with the world.
Well done Scambo! We can fix this, one step at a time.

Back in March I was flying to SYD with very senior captain (sn<50) who is now retired. Even though he knew he would not be here to reap the rewards and he actually lost money, he voted no last July due to the companies over reaching in the concessions.

The one that really Po'd him the most was them wanting to take their bonus money out of our PS pool first! He didn't have a lanyard at the time, but I had an extra and he was happy to wear it. I'll bet he wore it on his retirement flight a couple weeks ago.
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Old 06-18-2016, 02:56 PM
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Originally Posted by orvil
In my observation, it seems to me that the 330 fleet has very few orange lanyards. Has anyone notice this?

My fleet, the 765, seems pretty orange.
Again very unscientific, my seat of the pants feel is maybe 1 in 3 Atl 717 captains wears orange. Even worse, most of the guys I know do not plan to picket on Friday. Hope I am way off due to small sample size. Most of the guys I know are junior and are stuck flying Friday into the weekend, which is a possible reason...
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Old 06-18-2016, 02:58 PM
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Originally Posted by TenYearsGone
I saw an ALASKA pilot the other day with our ORANGE. I had to do a double take.

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He wasn't supposed to do that until the merger is officially announced.
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Old 06-19-2016, 07:01 AM
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Start filling out all forms, and the logbooks in orange ink.
https://www.amazon.com/Pentel-Retrac...orange+ink+pen
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Old 06-19-2016, 07:20 AM
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Originally Posted by MikeF16
Again very unscientific, my seat of the pants feel is maybe 1 in 3 Atl 717 captains wears orange. Even worse, most of the guys I know do not plan to picket on Friday. Hope I am way off due to small sample size. Most of the guys I know are junior and are stuck flying Friday into the weekend, which is a possible reason...
I have noticed a lot of 88 drivers don't wear the orange.
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