DAL73n

Lowering ourselves to the level of management is not the way forward to a new contract. We need to continue doing the things that made Delta the #1 airline that commands a price premium. When push comes to shove doing the right thing will pay off in the end. For years, CEO Anderson bragged about labor peace to the analysts. If you think informational picketing and the fact that our demands will no longer put us "non-competitive" versus the UA and AA means that Bastien will have to find another way to justify not paying us competitive rates. Our competitors are paying much better rates than we are and we will get UA/AA plus some % (if its only 3-4% over) and the rest of the contract should contain some small gains in benefits (better vacation, better rigs, better per diem) with no loss in PS. Now, after all the contract negotiations are over if DAL wants some profit sharing back for ADDITIONAL raises I suppose that might be something worth looking at.

TED74

I hope you are in the minority in focusing on pay rates, and in softly hoping for "some small gains" elsewhere. You definitely set a low bar - I guess that's one way to set yourself up for happiness at the next TA.

Gomerglideslope

Plus the company is very happy to drag their feet for years...there will be no TA this summer.

Cubdrick

Then why the rush last summer? Company is free to drag this on as long as they'd like. JD Power means nothing to me. I'll take my PS and sick leave untouched.


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BobZ

Next to winning..... not losing is the next best option.

With surrender being the only certain failure.

Poncef15c

For what its worth (not anything really), flew with a senior CA over a week ago who said the same- 14/4/4/4 and no changes to PS.

Speed Select

^^^ And that right there is Negotiation 101.

There will be no TA until the company starts losing under the current contract.

Wuzatforus

Senior Captain? They often don't know sh!+. I flew with one once who wasn't aware we had pilots on furlough.

Beware of senior CAs.

p.s. I are one

Viking busdvr

^^^^^ I would have to agree with this, however I believe the company DOES feel they are losing, and they want to do better... They feel they are losing in the areas of sick leave, OE LCA trip pulls, and of course profit sharing... If our negotiators are willing to bargain in those area we will be getting a TA this summer. If they aren't willing to give in those areas ( and I hope they're not!) then I don't see a TA soon. Our "constructive engagement " has been a one way street for a long, long time.... Seriously, why would management agree to a TA that doesn't give them any concessions? The gravy train is still rolling along at record pace, and with pilots willing to pull as hard as ever (and to help clean the aircraft..????) They will be happy to wait. ...sincerely- BOB

MOTOJOE

I think we're closer than you think and this TA will be announced soon. Even Malone has eluded to it. Now whether the elected mec votes for it or depending where you sit at Delter like it, is the big question.