Originally Posted by Hank Kingsley

New York to Milan | Emirates A380 Flight Schedule | Emirates United States

Or you can fly our 30 year old B767 and 60+ cabin crew. It's the camel's nose under the tent, no pun intended. You'll see lots of shiny jets at every major airport in the world with their livery. Try nonrevving to Dubai on Delta, you can't anymore.

Originally Posted by Hank Kingsley

I hope you're right, but I heard that before. I would say the ME3 types are a major threat.

Originally Posted by JamesBond

1) I had a passenger tell me as he was deplaning the other day how he liked our brand new 757.
2) I guess you would rather live under the kind of laws that would allow DAL to fire you at will... like they can in the ME.
3) Who in their right mind wants to go to Dubai anyway?


**** Emirates

Originally Posted by NuGuy

Heyas Timbo,

Great post. Cuts to the heart of the matter.

1989. You had a dozen majors (of one kind or another) hiring 100/month (gotta love 3 man airplanes).

You had plenty of commuters, but they much smaller, and were all suffering what you would think would be catastrophic turnover...in many cases 100% per year.

Did they lower their minimums to wet-commercial? Nope. Didn't have to. 1000/100 was the lowest I ever saw, even in the peak of the hiring.

Why? Plenty of people in the pipeline. The majors were attractive, well worth going for, and with plenty of them, you stood a good chance of hiring on. The career was still such that it DREW people into the pipeline, and they tolerated the BS.

When did the collapse of hiring minimums happen in the regionals?

2006. Right when the effects of the pay and benefit hits on the majors took place. Who in their right mind would get involved in the industry when the benefits were so reduced, as well as your chances for getting there?

The collapse in the hiring requirements at the regionals, pre-1500 hour rule, was a symptom of more than just the bad pay and working conditions at the regionals. They've always been way below par...that's nothing new, and certainly the effects of inflation didn't help, but the draw was no longer there.

Nu

Originally Posted by msprj2

It seems to me at least that mainline pilots should be much more concerned
about foreign long haul carriers than about regional scope. The regionals will be shrinking and consolidating as the number of pilots go's down regardless of
what scope language is added to new contracts as long as mainline keeps
hiring.

Originally Posted by Hank Kingsley

Ok, you're right. I would like to work for Emirates. Point is, we're pulling out of markets and Emirates is moving into our markets. I think my point is that they are a legitimate threat to your future. And they have showers and foot massages on their 380's, top that Jimmie.

Originally Posted by maddogmax

and Jennifer Aniston

Originally Posted by Mesabah

or the airbus said "retard" instead of "cognitively impoverished".

Originally Posted by Hank Kingsley

New York to Milan | Emirates A380 Flight Schedule | Emirates United States

Or you can fly our 30 year old B767 and 60+ cabin crew. It's the camel's nose under the tent, no pun intended. You'll see lots of shiny jets at every major airport in the world with their livery. Try nonrevving to Dubai on Delta, you can't anymore.